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Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

alokeprasad
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Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102


@CrimpOn wrote:

@alokeprasad wrote:


Can Anywhere Access be turned off at the RBR50's web interface? I don't want _anyone_ to have access to my Orbi's settings unless physically connected to my LAN.

 

Too bad that WiFi access to the settings cannot be disabled. Ideally, I'd turn off every access mode except by web interface using a wired Ethernet connected device on my LAN.


No, Anywhere Access can be turned off only on the Orbi "app".  The web interface knows nothing about Anywhere Access.

 

Which is dumb.  Anyone with access to my Netgear password (passwords do get leaked or guessed.. maybe not mine Smiley Happy but there are people who use easy to guess passwords) can then turn it on and muck around with my network.

 

A number of people have expressed interest in restricting access to the Orbi web interface to only "wired" devices.  With laptops no longer providing ethernet jacks, I fear this is not likely to happen.

 

Sadly, you are right. Thank goodness that the RBR and RBS's have ethernet ports at the back! Eero satellites don't, which is astounding for such an expensive product.


 

Orbi RBK50v2 ver 2.7.4.24
Love my Orbi (with this firmware version).
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alokeprasad
Mentor

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Thx for the explanation.

 

"The Orbi smartphone "app" can connect to the Orbi remotely by going through the Netgear "Cloud".

 

Thats the reason I want to have nothing to do with it!!  Companies get hacked and passwords get leaked or guessed.

 

For someone like me, who has no need for remote management of anything, it is nice that I can disable remote administration (and not open ports on the NAT), not enable VPN.  As for Anywhere Access, it is what it is. But I wish it wasn't.

 

Ideally, if someone wants to administer my router, switches, they should need to physically connect to my LAN with Ethernet cable. There should be a way to set things up that way.

 

But it isn't Smiley Sad

 

Orbi RBK50v2 ver 2.7.4.24
Love my Orbi (with this firmware version).
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jdy0204
Tutor

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

I seem to be having significant issues post firmware update.  I got a notification that security updates were available, so I installed them thinking it would be fine.  Now my RBR50 shows up as offline and my internet connection for wireless is dropping regularly.  This impacts my cellphone, chromecasts, smart lightbulbs, and security cameras.  I have rebooted the router a few times, rebooted/reset the modem, etc.  I'm not sure what is causing the issue but it is really frustrating.  Right now the app shows internet is offline but I'm writing this post on my laptop via wifi.  This is very strange. I have also been getting some credential issue notifications while using wifi on my devices.  

Model: RBR50|Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi Router, RBS50Y|High Performance AC3000 Outdoor WiFi Mesh Extender and Add-on Satellite
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CrimpOn
Guru

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102


@alokeprasad wrote:

@CrimpOn wrote:


No, Anywhere Access can be turned off only on the Orbi "app".  The web interface knows nothing about Anywhere Access.

 

Which is dumb.  Anyone with access to my Netgear password (passwords do get leaked or guessed.. maybe not mine Smiley Happy but there are people who use easy to guess passwords) can then turn it on and muck around with my network.


I have never seen an explanation of how Anywhere Access works, but my impression is that it can be turned on only when the Orbi app is connected to the Orbi over the local LAN.  I have a vague impression that the Orbi serial number is involved in the Cloud connection.  So, a hacker knowing the Netgear login for someone could not load up the Orbi app and connect to the Orbi remotely.

I love my Orbi.
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Jgoldsti
Star

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Have been running 102 for several days without any issues

Model: CATRBR50-100NAS|Orbi Premium CAT5e Flat Ethernet Cable
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tagteam
Virtuoso

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102


@Jgoldsti wrote:

Have been running 102 for several days without any issues


Same here; seems fairly solid but then I have been running ALL of the firmware updates for well over 3 years without any issues.

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alokeprasad
Mentor

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102


@CrimpOn wrote:

@alokeprasad wrote:

@CrimpOn wrote:


No, Anywhere Access can be turned off only on the Orbi "app".  The web interface knows nothing about Anywhere Access.

 

Which is dumb.  Anyone with access to my Netgear password (passwords do get leaked or guessed.. maybe not mine Smiley Happy but there are people who use easy to guess passwords) can then turn it on and muck around with my network.


I have never seen an explanation of how Anywhere Access works, but my impression is that it can be turned on only when the Orbi app is connected to the Orbi over the local LAN.  I have a vague impression that the Orbi serial number is involved in the Cloud connection.  So, a hacker knowing the Netgear login for someone could not load up the Orbi app and connect to the Orbi remotely.


You are correct. 

 

I have Anywhere Access turned off. When switched to LTE connection on my iPhone, the Orbi app says that there are no registered Orbi devices available and asks me to connect locally to WiFi of my Orbi to make any changes.  Or words to that effect.

Orbi RBK50v2 ver 2.7.4.24
Love my Orbi (with this firmware version).
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jdy0204
Tutor

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

After having quite a few issues I did a factory reset and now I'm not having any issues with the new firmware.
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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

What issues were you seeing before the reset? Glad the reset worked as it's a normal troubleshooting step to try when problems are seen. 

Thanks for letting us know, 


@jdy0204 wrote:
After having quite a few issues I did a factory reset and now I'm not having any issues with the new firmware.

 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RBK752(v.5) | Switches NG GS105/8 and XS505M | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

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jdy0204
Tutor

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

See my earlier comment. It was having intermittent issues with internet connectivity and the satellite and the router were alternating disconnecting. Wired connections were fine.
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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Ok, Thanks for letting us know the reset worked. 


Enjoy. Smiley Wink


@jdy0204 wrote:
See my earlier comment. It was having intermittent issues with internet connectivity and the satellite and the router were alternating disconnecting. Wired connections were fine.

 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RBK752(v.5) | Switches NG GS105/8 and XS505M | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

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aaronka
Guide

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Still can't my RBS50 to update to the same firmware as the RBR50, I guess I will have to wait until it is available for download.  I still don't have a good explanation as to why my RBR50 was forced updated in the first place though.

 

From the Advanced - Administration - Firmware Update page

Netgear No Update.jpg

On the Attached Devices Page

Netgear Disconnected.jpg

 

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

You try a factory reset on the RBS and RBR? 


@aaronka wrote:

Still can't my RBS50 to update to the same firmware as the RBR50, I guess I will have to wait until it is available for download.  I still don't have a good explanation as to why my RBR50 was forced updated in the first place though.

 

From the Advanced - Administration - Firmware Update page

Netgear No Update.jpg

On the Attached Devices Page

Netgear Disconnected.jpg

 


 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RBK752(v.5) | Switches NG GS105/8 and XS505M | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

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aaronka
Guide

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Since I'm only having cosmetic issues with it I'm not willing to go down that rabbit hole. I would like to know how to prevent future forced updates though.
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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Hopefully NG will post FW files so you can update the RBS manually. 


Good Luck. 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RBK752(v.5) | Switches NG GS105/8 and XS505M | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

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CrimpOn
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Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102


@aaronka wrote:
Since I'm only having cosmetic issues with it I'm not willing to go down that rabbit hole. I would like to know how to prevent future forced updates though.

The only method that people have found to block updates is to block access to the Netgear firmware updates web site, which (I believe) requires a router upstream of the Orbi.

I love my Orbi.
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AllanSor
Aspirant

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

NG has now posted FW for manual update on the support page !


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alokeprasad
Mentor

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Not yet (Jan 5, 2021 at 8 AM EST) for RBK50v2

https://www.netgear.com/support/product/RBK50v2#download

 

The firmware may be the same for RBK50 and RBK50v2, but we should not assume that they are. 

The hardware is different and it stands to reason that the firmware could be different too.

Orbi RBK50v2 ver 2.7.4.24
Love my Orbi (with this firmware version).
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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

v102 has been posted and is now available for manual download and manual FW update to the Orbi 50 series system:

 

Bug Fixes:

Fixes the device manager display issue on the Orbi app.


Download Link:.

https://kb.netgear.com/000062753/RBR50-RBS50-Firmware-Version-2-7-2-102-for-US-Region-Only

 

This applies to all 50 series Orbi:

Let us know how it works for you. 

Good Luck. 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RBK752(v.5) | Switches NG GS105/8 and XS505M | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

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danny07
Tutor

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

After upgrading to 2.7.2.102 I clicked on the button to add Special Parental Controls, which said a reboot was required.  After reboot, the entire section for parental controls is missing.  Any ideas how to remedy this besides a reset?Capture.JPG

Model: RBR50|Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi Router
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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

v2.7 handles parenal controls differently. v2.7 versions are for US region users only. 

Access controls are located under Advanced tab/Security. If you need Circle support, you'll need to revert back to the FW version you had loaded that supported Circle, I believe v16 or v40 support Circle. 

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/RBR50-RBS50-Firmware-Version-2-6-1-40/m-p/1997895/highlight/tr...

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/RBR50-RBS50-Firmware-2-5-1-16-Update/m-p/1897955/highlight/tru...

 

Please post about this over in the Circle forum for help and information regarding Circle:

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Circle-Smart-Parental-Controls/bd-p/en-home-circle
Good Luck.


@danny07 wrote:

After upgrading to 2.7.2.102 I clicked on the button to add Special Parental Controls, which said a reboot was required.  After reboot, the entire section for parental controls is missing.  Any ideas how to remedy this besides a reset?Capture.JPG


 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RBK752(v.5) | Switches NG GS105/8 and XS505M | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

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vajim
Master

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102


@FURRYe38 wrote:

v2.7 handles parenal controls differently. v2.7 versions are for US region users only. 

 

 

Why isn't this version offered when users check for updates in the web login area?

 


 


 

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

It's offered if ones system has updated to v60.

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RBK752(v.5) | Switches NG GS105/8 and XS505M | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

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vajim
Master

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102


@FURRYe38 wrote:

It's offered if ones system has updated to v60.


Not true ....again..sorry 

 

and if it were true how would someone NOT have v60?

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Is true, once I had v60 on my RBR50, v102 appear as an available download in the RBRs FW update web page. Others reported seeing this as well:

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-RBR50-Router-Firmware-Version-V2-7-2-102/m-p/2031915/high...

 

ALL avialble FW versions are on NG download site for manual download and manual update as well. Up to users to upate or not. 

Enjoy. Smiley Wink

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RBK752(v.5) | Switches NG GS105/8 and XS505M | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

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