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Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

I have updated to firmware version 2.1.3.4 and have noticed some homekit instability.  I have several iDevices Switches which have become intermittent and no other changes than the router firmware.  I was re-initializing one in an effort to get it to join, and on the second unsuccessful try, it said it is "not compatible with my router".  The one I reset along with other ones work one moment and don't work the next.  They used to be very very stable. Also getting problems with Philips Hue devices.  

Model: RBK53| Orbi Router + 2 Satellites Orbi WiFi System
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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

Does disabling Beamforming, MiMo Daisy Chain or fast roaming do anything?

Did you factory reset both router and satellite after upgrading?

My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>RBK50 v2.7.0.70(AP Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi CBK40, RBK853, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

Thanks for the suggestions

I would like to see how many other people have these problems before I tear apart my entire setup which was working absolutely perfectly before this firmware update.

 

One thing I might try is revert to the previous firmware as I am quite confident that will fix 100% of my problems....

 

 

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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.


@Bill____I had the same and had to roll back to 2.1.2.18.  It's definitely a mess-up with the latest firmware.  I can only guess that whatever fixes they used to prevent google devices from doing mDNS storms has completely broken HomeKit.

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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

Thank you for the responses.

I have rolled back the router and two satellites to version 2.1.2.18

I am now getting zero issues, all homekit items reachable inside and from outside (remote)

 

Looks like another failed firmware release (two in a row I think)

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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

I would contact NG support and let them know what your seeing. I believe others have posted about this as well. 


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>RBK50 v2.7.0.70(AP Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi CBK40, RBK853, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

Although I agree with you to contact NetGear support, the problem is that I don't see a path to do that.  My 90 day warranty ran out last year and I am not going to pay them to "troubleshoot" a problem that they have created in their update.

 

If there is a way to advise them of the problem, I'm happy to do it..

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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

I would make contact with one of the forum Moderators on here. @AmitR and @DarrenM

 

Good Luck. 


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>RBK50 v2.7.0.70(AP Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi CBK40, RBK853, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

Thank you I have sent a message.

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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

Let us know if you find out anything. 

 

Good Luck. 


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>RBK50 v2.7.0.70(AP Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi CBK40, RBK853, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

Will do.

 

Thank you all for the help.

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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

Smiley Wink


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>RBK50 v2.7.0.70(AP Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi CBK40, RBK853, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

I have the same problem - it's with SOME Homekit devices (all whcih worked 100% fine with the previous firmware); they now show not reachable fairly often... Smiley Sad

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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

Thank you for mentioning, hopefully this will get fixed.  No problems since the rollback to former firmware...

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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

Exact same issue here. Everything works nice except the Homekit issue. Devices randomly unavailable.. closing homekit and reopening seems to fix it temporarily.. but the next moment they could be unavailable again.. so went back to firmware 2.0.1.4. Please Netgear fix this!!
Model: RBK50| Orbi AC3000 High-Performance Tri-Band WiFi System
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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4

 

Same issue here my Kuna camera now stays connected but my HomeKit Accessories continually dropping off with no reponse. My automations are not working because of it. Hate to go back because 2.1.3.4 fixed my camera connection issues.

 

Hopw they have something in the works

 

Model: RBK50| Orbi AC3000 High-Performance Tri-Band WiFi System
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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

No word from Netgear, no acknowlegement of the problem, and the firmware we're having problems with is still available as an "upgrade".

 

Every time someone downloads the firmware, tries to troubleshoot, then eventually reverts back to the older firmware - it wastes someone's time and causes frustration.

 

A quick path to minimize this frustration would be preferable.

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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

iDevices advised that Netgear Orbi is currently on their "not compatible" list due to the firmware.

 

https://idevicesinc.com/compatibility/network-setup/

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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

Running firmware 2.1.2.18 and no problems with Apple Homekit or Phillips Hue system.

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Model: RBK50| Orbi AC3000 High-Performance Tri-Band WiFi System, RBS40| Orbi AC2200 Tri-band WiFi (Add-on Satellite)
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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

Oh my.  This is not what I wanted to read.  I was following the other thread, saw that people were largely happy with the new software and finally "upgraded" tonight.  Decided to do some additional reading to see whether people are using Beamforming, MU-MIMO and Fast Roaming, but found this.  Well, here's to hoping that maybe I'll get lucky.

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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

There is still, as far as I can tell, no response or acknowledgement from the Netgear moderator.

 

I can understand if a firmware update comes out and has to be recalled due to issues.  I can even understand if it happens twice in a row - as it appears to in this case.

 

But what I don't understand is a company making every effort to get people to pay $50 for support and not giving realistic responses otherwise.  We are not the ones who should be paying $50 to take the effort to report these things.

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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

Thats what chaps my butthole.  No acknowledgment of the issue... hell no "known issues" listed in the release notes.  I think customers would be a lot less pissed off if there was active engangement from Netgear with its users.

 


@Bill____ wrote:

There is still, as far as I can tell, no response or acknowledgement from the Netgear moderator.

 

I can understand if a firmware update comes out and has to be recalled due to issues.  I can even understand if it happens twice in a row - as it appears to in this case.

 

But what I don't understand is a company making every effort to get people to pay $50 for support and not giving realistic responses otherwise.  We are not the ones who should be paying $50 to take the effort to report these things.


 

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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

Still nothing.

 

Are these guys asleep at the wheel?   How do things get fixed here?  I'm not paying $50.  I'd throw away everything and get a competing product before I'd do that.

 

This "support" experience or lack thereof has made my opinion of NetGear plummet.   I think this is amongst the worst I've seen for tech support.

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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

I'm using Firmware 2.1.3.4 using Orbi as a router and just had an Apple Bonjour issue. I was updating printer drivers on all my macs and the laptops connected via WiFi to the Orbi Satellites did not recognize the hard wired network connected printer. When connected via WiFi to the Orbi Router, Bonjour was recognized. Also recognized on ethernet hard wired computers as well. I tired both Wireless and Wired backhaul. I tried restarting the satellites and re-syncing them. The reason I bring it up here is that maybe Homekit uses Bonjour and the Satellite connected devices had a problem. Just another datapoint. I'm not really willing to set back my firmware to see if that fixes it for me as it only a set up problem I can correct by moving the laptop only when adding the printer. Printer works fine once set up.

 

Model: RBK50| Orbi AC3000 High-Performance Tri-Band WiFi System
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Re: Orbi RBS/RBR 50 Version 2.1.3.4 and Apple homekit iDevices and Philips Hue problems.

Netgear is probably blocking mDNS broadcasts to the satellite. This also explains my previous problems with AirPrint. How can they push out these changes without testing. You’d swear the entire orbi product line is supported by one coder in his moms basement who only has an android phone.

If netgear doesn’t fix there junk software I’m going to grab a second asus ac87u, update to their mesh firmware, pack up my orbi, and personally drive it down to netgear headquarters and ram the whole thing up their CEOs ass.
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