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RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Latest firmware v2.5.1.16 on RBK53 in AP mode.  No new surprises yet.  Everything seems to be in order and working.  If you took the plunge, please share your experiences.

 

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Model: RBK53|Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi System
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Guru

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Awesome. I do the same thing. Mine will be in router mode. 

https://kb.netgear.com/000061838/RBR50-RBS50-Firmware-Version-2-5-1-16

 

For 20 and 40 Series Orbi, There updated as well:

20: https://kb.netgear.com/000061826/RBR20-RBS20-Firmware-Version-2-5-1-16

40: https://kb.netgear.com/000061825/RBR40-RBS40-Firmware-Version-2-5-1-16


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>RBK853 v3.1.15.32(Router Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200, Orbi CBK40, RBK50, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Luminary

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Add me to the sucker for punishment list Smiley Happy

 

Orbi in Access Point mode

 

Attached Device List:

I am not seeing any real improvement.  Still seems slow to pull them up.  I can go to my devices and they work fine enough, but are still not listed in the Orbi browser.  I still have those ones that for whatever reason, the Orbi refuses to see them - my router does - and they act as expected.  If you are upgrading for this reason, you may be disappointed.

 

Satellite Acquisition:

There were some posts that this was faster.  This seems to be the case.  My wifi based backhaul would always go pink for about 10 seconds and finally flip to blue.  Goes right to blue now.  Now ... I am not say blazing fast by any mean; just, a little faster.

 

RBK53 v2
Router Firmware: 2.5.1.16
Satellite Firmware: 2.5.1.16 (Satellite1: Wired, Satetellite2: WiFi)
Setup: DSL Modem (Bridge Mode) - Personal Router - Orbi (Access Point mode)
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Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update


@theoak wrote:

Add me to the sucker for punishment list Smiley Happy

 


now that's what we need is a sucker for punishment forum.  


 

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Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

I have been running v2.5.1.16 on my RBR50/RBS50 setup for 3 weeks since March 31, 2020 (I received beta copy of it for a separate issue listed below).  It unfortunately did not fix my outstanding tickets against v2.5.1.8, which include:

 

  1. Orbi Android App cannot change device icons
  2. Orbi Android App icon is incorrect for "smart locks", shows "network" device instead
  3. DHCP logging is inconsistent (logs them until rebooted, then does not log them until rebooted again, toggling between working and not working on each reboot)
  4. dnsmasq process for DNS server does not resolve local LAN hostnames

The DNS server issue (#4 above) has a workaround at https://community.netgear.com/t5/Idea-Exchange-For-Home/orbi-add-dns-server/idc-p/1632085#M1731 but it does not survive a reboot of the router.

 

Is anyone else seeing these issues or other issues?  If so, please report to them to this thread so we have a good idea what is fixed and what is still broken.  All 4 items above are at NG L2 and/or engineering support awaiting fixes.

 

RBK53 Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi System (RBR50v1 router and two RBS50v1 satellites) running v2.5.1.16 firmware
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Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Did you notice any devices appearing on the RBS and if they were displayed as unknown on the Orbi app or the RBSs web page? 


@theoak wrote:

Add me to the sucker for punishment list Smiley Happy

 

Orbi in Access Point mode

 

Attached Device List:

I am not seeing any real improvement.  Still seems slow to pull them up.  I can go to my devices and they work fine enough, but are still not listed in the Orbi browser.  I still have those ones that for whatever reason, the Orbi refuses to see them - my router does - and they act as expected.  If you are upgrading for this reason, you may be disappointed.

 

Satellite Acquisition:

There were some posts that this was faster.  This seems to be the case.  My wifi based backhaul would always go pink for about 10 seconds and finally flip to blue.  Goes right to blue now.  Now ... I am not say blazing fast by any mean; just, a little faster.

 


 


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>RBK853 v3.1.15.32(Router Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200, Orbi CBK40, RBK50, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Guru

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Did you notice any devices appearing on the RBS and if they were displayed as unknown on the Orbi app or the RBSs web page? 


@tomschmidt wrote:

I have been running v2.5.1.16 on my RBR50/RBS50 setup for 3 weeks since March 31, 2020 (I received beta copy of it for a separate issue listed below).  It unfortunately did not fix my outstanding tickets against v2.5.1.8, which include:

 

  1. Orbi Android App cannot change device icons
  2. Orbi Android App icon is incorrect for "smart locks", shows "network" device instead
  3. DHCP logging is inconsistent (logs them until rebooted, then does not log them until rebooted again, toggling between working and not working on each reboot)
  4. dnsmasq process for DNS server does not resolve local LAN hostnames

The DNS server issue (#4 above) has a workaround at https://community.netgear.com/t5/Idea-Exchange-For-Home/orbi-add-dns-server/idc-p/1632085#M1731 but it does not survive a reboot of the router.

 

Is anyone else seeing these issues or other issues?  If so, please report to them to this thread so we have a good idea what is fixed and what is still broken.  All 4 items above are at NG L2 and/or engineering support awaiting fixes.

 


 


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>RBK853 v3.1.15.32(Router Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200, Orbi CBK40, RBK50, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Luminary

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update


@FURRYe38 wrote:

Did you notice any devices appearing on the RBS and if they were displayed as unknown on the Orbi app or the RBSs web page? 

 

 No difference.  Directly to the Orbi Satellite or Router GUI or iPhone App - does not list them.  My router does and gives them IP address obviously and I see their traffic. 

RBK53 v2
Router Firmware: 2.5.1.16
Satellite Firmware: 2.5.1.16 (Satellite1: Wired, Satetellite2: WiFi)
Setup: DSL Modem (Bridge Mode) - Personal Router - Orbi (Access Point mode)
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Apprentice

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

This update nicely fixed the problem i had, which is that the Orbi ios app would not list devices as they were attached to satellites or router (it just listed them in the main device manager without showing where they were connected) . After the update all works as expected (and as it once did). Speed seems fine to all devices. 

Model: RBR50|Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi Router
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Guru

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Upgraded my RBK50 system yesterday. 

Working well as expected. Router mode.

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My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>RBK853 v3.1.15.32(Router Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200, Orbi CBK40, RBK50, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update


@Dd852 wrote:

This update nicely fixed the problem i had, which is that the Orbi ios app would not list devices as they were attached to satellites or router (it just listed them in the main device manager without showing where they were connected) . After the update all works as expected (and as it once did). Speed seems fine to all devices. 


Is it pushed by NG or did you have to go looking for it?

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Guru

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

I always manually download FW and manually install thru the RBS and RBRs web page. I didn't do a reset this time. Wanted to see how it worked with out doing a reset and setup from scratch.


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>RBK853 v3.1.15.32(Router Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200, Orbi CBK40, RBK50, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

What does NG support recommend WRT firmware updates?

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Guru

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

I don't understand your question...


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>RBK853 v3.1.15.32(Router Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200, Orbi CBK40, RBK50, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

what part don't you understand?

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Guru

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

"What does NG support recommend WRT firmware updates?"


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>RBK853 v3.1.15.32(Router Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200, Orbi CBK40, RBK50, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update


@FURRYe38 wrote:

"What does NG support recommend WRT firmware updates?"


You know what it means.

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Guru

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Are you referring to OpenWRT or DD-WRT? 

Maybe restate your question better? 

 

Open/DD-WRT isn't supported on Orbi if thats what your asking. 


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>RBK853 v3.1.15.32(Router Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200, Orbi CBK40, RBK50, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update


@FURRYe38 wrote:

Are you referring to OpenWRT or DD-WRT? 

Maybe restate your question better? 

 

Open/DD-WRT isn't supported on Orbi if thats what your asking. 


wow...I've never mentioned OpenWRT or DD-WRT, and again you know that

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Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

And your point is? 

 


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>RBK853 v3.1.15.32(Router Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200, Orbi CBK40, RBK50, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

and my point is you have no answer.....perhaps someone else.

 

 

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Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

I did say I had an answer. 

Contact NG support to what they recommend. 


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>RBK853 v3.1.15.32(Router Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200, Orbi CBK40, RBK50, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

been there done done that.....looking for a consensus here...

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Guru

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Only other 3rd party FW that works on Orbi 50 series is Voxels FW.


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>RBK853 v3.1.15.32(Router Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200, Orbi CBK40, RBK50, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update


@Retired_Member wrote:

What does NG support recommend WRT firmware updates?


It took me a minute to figure out that WRT is shorthand for "With Regard To".

At first I connected it to Orbi being based on the OpenWRT software platform and thought there was a word left out, such as "recommend regarding"

 

Or, maybe that's not what WRT means?

I love my Orbi.
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