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RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

swellvue
Tutor

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

So, I am curious since your post mentioned RBR50Y's in the mix.

 

I have an RBR50 router, 3 RBS50 Sats, and 2 RBS50Y Sats.

 

I have been able to download the firmware for the RBR50 and RBS50 devices and have already upgraded the RBS50's to 2.5.1.16.   No problems.

 

However the RBS50Y Sats are a different situation, the download page for this device shows 2 options, either 2.3.5.32 for Orbi's or 2.5.2.104 but that claims it's only for Orbi Pro....

 

So does anyone know if my router is an RBR50, will the firmware for the RBS50Y that is 2.5.2.104 (Orbi Pro) actually work?   Cause if not, it seems 2.3.5.32 is the latest firmware for Orbi Mode for Orbi.

 

Just curious if anyone here knows.

Thanks

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

2.3.5.32 is what you need for the RBSY. the Pro version is for if you have a Orbi Pro system and what the RBSY to work with the Pro Orbi. 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RAXE50 and R8500(v.158) Router Mode | Switches NG GS105/8 | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

Message 52 of 87
swellvue
Tutor

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

and 2.3.5.32 on the RBS50Y is compatible with the router (RBS50) being on 2.5.1.16?   I really hate Netgears versioning scheme not having consistent versioning on the products to know this for sure... but for now just wanting to know that 2.3.5.32 will work with a router on 2.5.1.16.

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

I don't know for sure. Ya I wish NG would keep the RBSY up to date with the same versions as the RBSs. 

Is the RBSY currenly working with your system? 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RAXE50 and R8500(v.158) Router Mode | Switches NG GS105/8 | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

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samiam108
Aspirant

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

I got the 500 Internal Server Error when trying to upgrade my RBR50. Rebooting the router, unplugging the modem cable, and of course using an ethernet cable resolved the issue for me. It never completed its "upgading don't unplug me" message in web browser, but after 4-5 mins I could see devices connecting and confirm router had right firmware version from my iPhone.

 

Model: RBR50|Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi Router
Message 55 of 87
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

I would factory reset the RBR and RBS and setup from scratch. after the setup completes and the system works. Be sure to do a backup configuration to file for safe keeping.

 

Enjoy. Smiley Wink


@samiam108 wrote:

I got the 500 Internal Server Error when trying to upgrade my RBR50. Rebooting the router, unplugging the modem cable, and of course using an ethernet cable resolved the issue for me. It never completed its "upgading don't unplug me" message in web browser, but after 4-5 mins I could see devices connecting and confirm router had right firmware version from my iPhone.

 


 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RAXE50 and R8500(v.158) Router Mode | Switches NG GS105/8 | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

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swellvue
Tutor

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Yes, with the RBR50 still on 2.3.5.30 and the RBS50 Sats all on 2.5.1.16 and the RBS50Y Sats on 2.3.5.32 all devices are working.

 

Just would like to upgrade the RBR50 to 2.5.1.16 but not sure if the RBS50Y will work with that new firmware.

Message 57 of 87
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Two choices,

Upgrade the RBR50 to v16 and see if the RBSY still works. If not, downgrade back.

Keep what you have for now and wait for NG to update the RBSY FW.

 

You might see if the RBSY will connect to the RBS if you enable Daisy Chain on the RBR and see if it will connect to the RBS loaded with v16. IF it does, then it's possible that upgrade the RBR may work. 


@swellvue wrote:

Yes, with the RBR50 still on 2.3.5.30 and the RBS50 Sats all on 2.5.1.16 and the RBS50Y Sats on 2.3.5.32 all devices are working.

 

Just would like to upgrade the RBR50 to 2.5.1.16 but not sure if the RBS50Y will work with that new firmware.


 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RAXE50 and R8500(v.158) Router Mode | Switches NG GS105/8 | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

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Petiel315
Tutor

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Orbi is garbage
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WrathofKon
Tutor

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

So I updated today with no issues to resolve my not seeing connected devices issue.  I was seing 8 devices connected before which i knew was too little.  Now all devices connected are showing up in the device manager list in the web ui and the app.  I did the satellite and then the router.  No issues. 

Message 60 of 87
Petiel315
Tutor

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

There is no update to the routers from what I see I have rs40v which need to be rebooted failed
Just a garbage mesh system
Message 61 of 87
WrathofKon
Tutor

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

I was using linksys prior to this.  This has had better coverage and better speed. And generated few to no complaints from my co-inhabitants.  I don't like the app.  I didn't like the linksys app either.  Using separate apps for parental control is annoying.  Asking you to pay subscriptions for this is annoying too. 

I found the RBR50 Router upgrade here - https://kb.netgear.com/000061838/RBR50-RBS50-Firmware-Version-2-5-1-16

 

For the price I got this system, it has performed adequately for my needs.  

Message 62 of 87
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Thanks for letting us know. Glad all is working well now. Be sure to save off a new backup configuration to file. Saves time if a reset is needed. 

 

Enjoy. 


@WrathofKon wrote:

So I updated today with no issues to resolve my not seeing connected devices issue.  I was seing 8 devices connected before which i knew was too little.  Now all devices connected are showing up in the device manager list in the web ui and the app.  I did the satellite and then the router.  No issues. 


 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RAXE50 and R8500(v.158) Router Mode | Switches NG GS105/8 | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

Message 63 of 87
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Please post about your model orbi in the correct and more appropriate Orbi with Voice forum:

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-Voice-WiFi-Meets-HiFI/bd-p/en-home-orbi-voice

 

If you don't like what you have you have the option to return your product or sell it and find something else. Most users enjoy there Orbi systems. Not all Orbi systems are "garbage". 

 

Good Luck. 


@Petiel315 wrote:
There is no update to the routers from what I see I have rs40v which need to be rebooted failed
Just a garbage mesh system

 

 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RAXE50 and R8500(v.158) Router Mode | Switches NG GS105/8 | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

Message 64 of 87
MNLamberts
Initiate

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

I had an interesting experience updating to 2.5.1.16.  It appeared that one of my two RBK50 satellites updated, but not the other satellite or the router.  This caused the wireless internet connection to stop working entirely.  It took some hunting around to determine the firmware mismatch - once I got all devices on 2.5.1.16 everything was nominal again.

Model: RBR50|Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi Router
Message 65 of 87
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Yes the RBS and RBR should be on same version. One can manually load FW on to RBS as well using there web page. 

 

Thanks for letting us know. Enjoy. Smiley Wink

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RAXE50 and R8500(v.158) Router Mode | Switches NG GS105/8 | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

Message 66 of 87
yabanjin
Aspirant

Re: RBR2/RBS20 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

After updating to 2.5.16, my satellites no longer "know" the names of concected devices.  They do show the IP address, Mac address and connection [2.4GHz or 5Ghz] but device names are listed as "Unknown".   On the previous firmware they did know the device name.   So, a step backwards in that regard...!

Model: RBR20|Orbi AC2200 Tri-band WiFi Router
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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: RBR2/RBS20 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

You try a factory reset on the RBR and RBS after the update? 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RAXE50 and R8500(v.158) Router Mode | Switches NG GS105/8 | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

Message 68 of 87
yabanjin
Aspirant

Re: RBR20/RBS20 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

No, I didn't, never had to do that before.   Don't want to have to re-enter all the settings as it should be seamless.  Other updates were.....

Model: RBR20|Orbi AC2200 Tri-band WiFi Router
Message 69 of 87
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: RBR20/RBS20 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

I see the same on my RBS50 thats wired too.

Screen Shot 2020-07-22 at 1.36.10 PM.png

Lets see if NG support can pass this on to engineering.

@Blanca_O 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RAXE50 and R8500(v.158) Router Mode | Switches NG GS105/8 | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

Message 70 of 87
yabanjin
Aspirant

Re: RBR20/RBS20 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Also, why can't we change the list order of connected devices so they show by IP address, or MAC address or, alphabetically, connection type....etc, ?  

Seems like a very simple thing to do...

Message 71 of 87
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: RBR20/RBS20 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Something NG hasn't implemented. Others have asked about this. 

 

You can try this:

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Attached-Devices-Sorted-by-IP-Number/m-p/1941711#M97170


@yabanjin wrote:

Also, why can't we change the list order of connected devices so they show by IP address, or MAC address or, alphabetically, connection type....etc, ?  

Seems like a very simple thing to do...


 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CM2000 Modem | Wifi Router RAXE50 and R8500(v.158) Router Mode | Switches NG GS105/8 | 

Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK40, CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, R8500, RAXE500, RAX50, XR450, EX7500/EX7700, GS308v3

Message 72 of 87
jeff022889
Aspirant

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Ever since the Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update my WIFI is cutting off every 5 minutes.  The outage last only 10-15 seconds which is long enought to destroy connectivity to my many IoT devices.  Can someone please give me a work around or solution?

 

I am considering throwing my $600 Netgear WIFI in the trash and starting over.  I work from home and can not tolerate this level of service.

Model: RBR50|Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi Router
Message 73 of 87
Petiel315
Tutor

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

Sir

I have the same issues

support will not help you 

management will not help you

i have filed in my local county court a lawsuit against netgear for the amount of money I have paid for this Orbi garbage

it is absolute trash

 

Message 74 of 87
tomschmidt
Virtuoso

Re: RBR50/RBS50 Firmware 2.5.1.16 Update

You are not alone. The Orbi firmware is extremely unstable. I returned mine due to it not meeting advertises specifications.  I replaced it with an Asus ZenWiFi AIMesh system and it works so much better,  The only issue it has is that any guest networks only broadcast from the base router, they are not replicated on the satellites.  Supposedly a firmware fix for this issue will be released soon.

 

RBK53 Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi System (RBR50v1 router and two RBS50v1 satellites) running v2.5.1.16 firmware
Model: RBK53|Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi System
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