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Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Westyfield2
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Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

So within a week we've gone from no-one having tried an C2D E7600 to three of us having them! Smiley Very Happy

Given that cmassey has tried a 1333MHz FSB CPU and proven that they don't work, I think the C2D E7600 is the fastest 65W TDP CPU that these units will work with... and to go any faster would need you to put in a CPU with a higher TDP than stock.
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peet1
Guide

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

I'm in the same boat as momo9767 ... has anyone put a E7600 in a ReadyNAS Pro Business Edition (RNDP6000-100NAS)? I'm looking to upgrade mine and it looks like the E7600 has a enough more punch than the E6700 that it would be worth it.
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peet1
Guide

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Well I tried an e7600 and it did not post. It posts fine in a compatible board, so I know the silicon is fine. I dropped in an e6700 today and my pro 6 business is up and rolling. I'd hoped that it would be fast enough to transcode my blue ray mkv's but alas ....
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chirpa
Luminary

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

When you guys post the CPUs you try, can you also mention what the revision sticker says on the board? It is a small white/green/etc sticker under the CPU heatsink on the board. Earlier boards (under rev6) will have issues with the newer CPUs for sure).
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MattyShack
Aspirant

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

ReadyNAS Ultra 6 Plus
Mother Board: Flame 6 v1.1
Upgraded CPU from E2160 to E7600
No Issues
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soremaniac
Aspirant

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

For me the E6600 http://ark.intel.com/products/27250/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-E6600-4M-Cache-2_40-GHz-1066-MHz-FSBis working perfekt (realy cooler as the original and much faster), but i tried a Q6600 http://ark.intel.com/products/29765/Intel-Core2-Quad-Processor-Q6600-8M-Cache-2_40-GHz-1066-MHz-FSBworked, but got a Lot of sqari Messages.... :shock: but the transcoding was screaming fast.

Don't have (jet) a E6700 http://ark.intel.com/products/27251/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-E6700-4M-Cache-2_66-GHz-1066-MHz-FSB



But there is One Chip that i want to trie Out "X6800" http://ark.intel.com/products/27258/Intel-Core2-Extreme-Processor-X6800-4M-Cache-2_93-GHz-1066-MHz-F...

I think the best Performance enhancement is coming from the more Cache, so is there a Way Ort a CPU with a Lot 8 or 12 MB Cache that fits and Works in a First Gen. ReadyNas Pro Business Edition?

May be a Extream Core 2 Duo Running AT a lower CPU Speed? The are very flexibal, from what i heared. Anyone a Idee ?
http://ark.intel.com/products/family/34522
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MastaMind
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OK... just got my NAS up transferred my drives from a Ultra 2.. now I put the drives in my new Ultra 6 Plus.. changed the CPU to a YES X6800 .. and it is up an running with Stock ReadyNas fan. also tried it out with a little mod for pegs with Intel Stock Fan.. both are working. Prefer the Stock ReadyNas fan for profile reasons and can keep the door on. I changed the mem to 2 Gig Ridata ddr 800ghz. Looking at doing an 8GB upgrade. I esentialy want to run a VM off this box on demand. Also want to move my Linux Plex VM to this and see if it will run. Couple of notes. I have had some strange issues when copying either files "MKV" larger then 4GB the transfer speed throttles back from 118MB to 45-60MBs. Anyone else seen this?

Not sure if its a chip issue or something else. Was I supposed to recompile my Kernel for this Extreme Chip? My first post. Getting better with Linux..day by day.. Long time IT admin over 14years building PC and always have to have something to tinker with. Smiley Happy So glad to find these forums. how are you guys probing the chip and benchmarking.. do I need to install some kind of ssh client on my readyNas?
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MastaMind
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Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Forgot to give you my fan and temp readings and version.
Radiator 4.2.22

Fan SYS 942 RPM OK
Fan CPU 2083 RPM OK
Temp SYS 58 C / 136 F [Normal 0-65 C / 32-149 F] OK
Temp CPU 28.5 C / 83 F [Normal 0-85 C / 32-185 F] OK
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zijlr
Aspirant

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Hey Guys.

I have an Pro 6 first generation with the 2160 Dual Core 1.8 Ghz.

Understanding that upgrading the CPU voids warranty I have tried to install a 6700 2.66 Ghz SL9S7 cpu.
It did start, run through all steps, acquired ip address and than stopped (power down).
Upon power on again it immediately stopped again.

How can I find out what went wrong ? /var/log/messages does not really give me a clear error so I do not understand why it did not work.
Unfortunately I do not have possibility to check the E6700 itself as my normal machine has an i7 motherboard.
I would expect that the logs would give a clear reason on why it did not work.

Any help is appreciated.
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chirpa
Luminary

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Did you use thermal paste? It is likely overheating and powering off.
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dsm1212
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Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Add me to the list of e7600 upgrades. Took less than 10 minutes to make the swap. System came right up. This is a -200 rev pro6 with Flame 2.0 bios. Picked the cpu up used for $51 delivered. I think it was pulled from a 27" imac. I'll keep the old one in case this was abused but so far it looks good. Temp is 3 degrees cooler than the stock one, but I blew a lot of dust out of the fan and case while I had it open. Running 24x7 I guess its probably a good idea to clean out the dust more frequently!

-steve

# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 23
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7600 @ 3.06GHz
stepping : 10
cpu MHz : 3058.990
cache size : 3072 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 0
cpu cores : 2
apicid : 0
initial apicid : 0
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 13
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 xsave lahf_lm dts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority
bogomips : 6117.98
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor : 1
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 23
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7600 @ 3.06GHz
stepping : 10
cpu MHz : 3058.990
cache size : 3072 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 1
cpu cores : 2
apicid : 1
initial apicid : 1
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 13
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 xsave lahf_lm dts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority
bogomips : 6117.66
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:
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zijlr
Aspirant

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Chirpa, you where right. Not enough paste. Added more paste and now it runs without problems. So Readynas Pro6 gen 1 with 2160 replaced by E6700 also working down here Smiley Happy
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chirpa
Luminary

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Yay Smiley Happy
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puntocom
Aspirant

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

This is a pretty exciting thread. I have an Ultra 6 Plus and I'd like to upgrade the CPU on it. Is there a consensus on that fastest CPU I could put in here without needing to modify the cooling significantly?

I also checked the logs and found out that I have an older BIOS: 10/03/2008 FLAME6-MB V1.6

How can I get this newer BIOS everyone is talking about?
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chirpa
Luminary

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Ultra 6 Plus that has a FLAME6-MB board will support the same CPUO as the ReadyNAS Pro mainly in this thread. An E7600 may be trial and error, but lower models should work fine.
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puntocom
Aspirant

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Cool, thanks for the info. I'll see if I can't find an E7500 somewhere just to be safe. I saw in another thread that you had that newest BIOS available to writing to a USB drive to flash the ReadyNAS, do you still have it?
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chirpa
Luminary

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

There may be even newer BIOS now, but I don't work there anymore to know that.

You can try running this add-on (install in FrontView, don't need USB boot anymore), which will update to the latest I had at the time: http://www.readynas.com/download/addons ... .5-x86.bin

That v0.5 add-on provides these BIOS versions:
  • Ultra2/ReadyNAS-ProUltra2 (1102/v1.8)

  • Ultra4/ReadyNAS-NVX-V2 (0823/v1.1)

  • Ultra6/FLAME6-2 (0610/v1.1)

  • Pro(6)/FLAME6-MB (0726/v2.0)
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puntocom
Aspirant

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Thanks for that update! I just got a 7500 from ebay. This should definitely help with plex streaming to multiple devices and overall snappiness. Thanks again.
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chirpa
Luminary

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Hopefully it works.

There are at least 6+ hardware revisions of the Pro (aka NV6) board. The earlier ones may not have the physical circuitry to handle the later CPUs. So even a BIOS update is not guarantee that new CPUs will work.
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puntocom
Aspirant

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

It works! Went from stock E2160 with 1GB DDR2 to a E7500 and 4GB DDR2. Speeds before:

snorlax:~# hdparm -t -T /dev/c/c

/dev/c/c:
Timing cached reads: 2034 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1017.25 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 572 MB in 3.00 seconds = 190.54 MB/sec

and speeds after the upgrade

snorlax:~# hdparm -t -T /dev/c/c

/dev/c/c:
Timing cached reads: 3990 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1996.06 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 946 MB in 3.00 seconds = 315.31 MB/sec

Looks good to me! Thanks for your help! I think my mainboard was Flame6 v1.1
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chirpa
Luminary

More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Nice! Btw, you could goto 8GB ram also.
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dsm1212
Apprentice

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

You're results are little better than mine with an e7600 and 8gb of ram. I'm getting 1900MB/s for cached reads. Do you have 7200RPM drives? I think I bought at least one drive that is only 5400RPM.

BTW if anyone knows how to check the actual memory speed I'd like to know. I tried installing lshw and dmidecode but both show unknown. The DIMM's I'm using the Patriot models that some others here listed and it does support 1066Mhz.

I can't complain though, I get pretty much the most I can get out of a 1Gb/s when accessing the NAS network (100-110MB/s reads and 80-90MB/s writes using large files).

steve
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fastfwd
Virtuoso

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

All those numbers seem low to me. Are you sure you ran the tests while the NAS was otherwise idle? Also, did you run the tests a few times? There can be significant run-to-run variation in the results.

Here's the best result from ten runs on my system:

ReadyNAS Pro Pioneer
CPU: 2.4GHz E6600 SL9ZL
RAM: 8GB
Drives: 2 x ST2000DM001, 2 x ST3000DM001


nas1:/etc/default# hdparm -t -T /dev/c/c

/dev/c/c:
Timing cached reads: 8894 MB in 2.00 seconds = 4454.85 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 1234 MB in 3.00 seconds = 411.04 MB/sec
2 × Pro 6 [Main & Backup] – XRAID2 Dual-Redundant (RAID6): 14.53TB (110MB/s Write, 123MB/s Read)
  • CPU: 2.4GHz E6600 SL9ZL - RAM: 8GB (PSD28G800K) - BIOS: 07/26/2010 - OS: 6.10.3 w/ custom kernel - Drives: 6 × ST4000VN000 / ST4000VN008
    Fans: Noctua NF-S12A FLX (Case), NF-R8 PWM (CPU), NF-R8 w/LNA (Power Supply) - USB: STGY8000400 - UPS: APC BR1000G
Ultra 2 Plus [for experimentation and testing] – JBOD: 8TB (110MB/s Write, 123MB/s Read)
  • CPU: Standard 1.8GHz Atom D525 - RAM: 2GB (CT25664BC1067) - BIOS: 11/02/2011 - OS: 4.2.31 - Drives: 2 × ST4000VN000 - Fan: Noctua NF-B9 - USB: ST31000340
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dsm1212
Apprentice

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

I can't get near that. You definitely have 7200 RPM drives I see. Maybe that's the difference. I have all the performance features enabled in Frontview since I have a UPS, do you? Or maybe our memory is still running at 800Mhz, but I can't find a way to tell.

steve
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fastfwd
Virtuoso

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

dsm1212 wrote:
You definitely have 7200 RPM drives I see. Maybe that's the difference.

It might explain the difference in the results of the buffered-read test, but the cached-read test isn't affected by drive speed. Your processor is faster than mine, right? And your memory should be running at least as fast as mine, so I don't know why my throughput is apparently twice as high as yours.

I have all the performance features enabled in Frontview since I have a UPS, do you?

Yes.

Or maybe our memory is still running at 800Mhz, but I can't find a way to tell.

dmidecode shows "unknown" for my memory speed, so I can't find a way either...
2 × Pro 6 [Main & Backup] – XRAID2 Dual-Redundant (RAID6): 14.53TB (110MB/s Write, 123MB/s Read)
  • CPU: 2.4GHz E6600 SL9ZL - RAM: 8GB (PSD28G800K) - BIOS: 07/26/2010 - OS: 6.10.3 w/ custom kernel - Drives: 6 × ST4000VN000 / ST4000VN008
    Fans: Noctua NF-S12A FLX (Case), NF-R8 PWM (CPU), NF-R8 w/LNA (Power Supply) - USB: STGY8000400 - UPS: APC BR1000G
Ultra 2 Plus [for experimentation and testing] – JBOD: 8TB (110MB/s Write, 123MB/s Read)
  • CPU: Standard 1.8GHz Atom D525 - RAM: 2GB (CT25664BC1067) - BIOS: 11/02/2011 - OS: 4.2.31 - Drives: 2 × ST4000VN000 - Fan: Noctua NF-B9 - USB: ST31000340
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