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Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Hibtek
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Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

🙂 I ran the cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null and it only did one processor, never though its as simple as just opening two sessions 🙂

Ran it on both, and temp climbed up to 34c, left it for 5 mins and it reached 36c, stopped them and it dropped by 10c by the time I refreshed frontview 🙂

Fan did not appear to change from 928 rpm though, but I guess its not getting hot enough to speed it up?

Thanks
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Campus
Apprentice

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Let it run for at least 30 minutes to get enough heat into the case to really stress test everything. Both fans should run at max speed then.
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Hibtek
Aspirant

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Well, after about 30 mins, no fan change and the processor is 36.5!, is there anyway the NAS could read the processor wrong?, a bit late to mention, but I am running RAIDiator 4.2.25

Device Description Status
Disk 1 Seagate ST31000528AS 931 GB , 36 C / 96 F , Write-cache ON OK
Disk 2 SAMSUNG HD103UJ 931 GB , 34 C / 93 F , Write-cache ON OK
Fan SYS 902 RPM OK
Fan CPU 2109 RPM OK
Temp SYS 58 C / 136 F [Normal 0-65 C / 32-149 F] OK
Temp CPU 36.5 C / 97 F [Normal 0-60 C / 32-140 F] OK
UPS 1 Not present NA

Top
top - 23:18:00 up 22:54, 3 users, load average: 2.09, 2.05, 1.83
Tasks: 88 total, 3 running, 85 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
Cpu(s): 0.0%us,100.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
Mem: 2053780k total, 1916756k used, 137024k free, 28432k buffers
Swap: 524272k total, 0k used, 524272k free, 1664440k cached

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
1546 root 20 0 3760 496 412 R 100 0.0 30:33.90 cat
1547 root 20 0 3760 496 412 R 100 0.0 30:30.10 cat
29875 root 20 0 2328 1020 788 R 0 0.0 0:02.98 top


I will reapply the firmware and see how it goes
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Campus
Apprentice

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Here are my numbers:

Idle:
Fan SYS 942 RPM OK
Fan CPU 1622 RPM OK
Temp SYS 56 C [Normal 0-65 C / 32-149 F] OK
Temp CPU 24 C [Normal 0-60 C / 32-140 F] OK

With stress load:
Fan SYS 998 RPM OK
Fan CPU 2960 RPM OK
Temp SYS 59 C [Normal 0-65 C / 32-149 F] OK
Temp CPU 48 C [Normal 0-60 C / 32-140 F] OK
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Hibtek
Aspirant

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Thanks for the reply, it makes me feel better that its similar to others, I have not seen a processor at 16c for a long time! 🙂

I did the old finger test as well, when I first saw it so low, and the heat sink was cold or cool to the touch.
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dhl
Luminary
Luminary

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Hi All,
Been reading this thread with great interest. I have two ReadyNAS Pro Pioneer systems that were purchased in 2010. We're about to do a complete disk swap with new 4TB drives to get higher capacity and dual redundancy. I'm thinking this might be a great time to breath new life into the systems with a CPU swap as well. Prices on eBay are dirt cheap and since these machines are at the end of their warranty life, I'm temped to go for it!

A few questions:

Seems like motherboard version makes a big difference in what CPUs will work. Is there an easy way to find out what my motherboard rev# is without opening the case?

For a 2010 Pro, is there any consensus on what processor will work best? I have one main goal - maximum speed without increasing temperatures while keeping all stock cooling (fans and heatsinks). My current system typically reports:

Fan SYS 897 RPM
Fan CPU 1917 RPM
Temp SYS 56 C / 132 F [Normal 0-65 C / 32-149 F]
Temp CPU 37.5 C / 99 F [Normal 0-85 C / 32-185 F]

I'd like it to stay at this level or cooler after the upgrade.

The E6400, E6600 or E6700 seem solid. Or maybe the E7400 or e7600? Or…?

Our systems have 4GB RAM (HCL compatible) and are running the latest BIOS (07/26/2010 FLAME6-MB V2.0)

Any advice/recommendations/gotchas?

Thanks!
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fastfwd
Virtuoso

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

dhl wrote:
I have one main goal - maximum speed without increasing temperatures while keeping all stock cooling (fans and heatsinks).

E6600 will give you that, especially if you get the right S-Spec number (SL9ZL, not SL9S8).
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dhl
Luminary
Luminary

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

fastfwd wrote:
E6600 will give you that, especially if you get the right S-Spec number (SL9ZL, not SL9S8).


Great, I'm seeing a bunch of them on eBay, many >$20 😄

So is this essentially a plug and play operation - i.e. no firmware hacks or cooling mods needed, just swap and go?
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dsm1212
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Have some fresh thermal paste on hand and while you are in there blow out the fan thoroughly. I actually saw my temps drop a bit but I think it was because of the cleaning :-). I'm using an e7600 I bought on ebay. That processor was frequently removed from a mac and updated so there are quite a few used around.

steve
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dhl
Luminary
Luminary

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

@dsm1212

Yes, will do on the thermal paste. Really great that you're seeing *cooler* temps! Do you know the S-Spec number number for your e7600? Really great that you're seeing *cooler* temps!
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dsm1212
Apprentice

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

SLGTD was the E7600 spec variant. My results are on page 10 of this topic. Wasn't hugely cooler, about 3 degrees.
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spiderman1
Guide

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Hi guys,

I would like to do a cpu mod on my Readynas Pro Business Edition (BIOS 07/26/2010 FLAME6-MB V2.0). Sticker on mobo is FA5.

Has anyone tried a q6600 and e7600? Which one should I opt for? I would like to do video transcoding using Plex or AirVideo preferably.

Thanks.
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sander11
Aspirant

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

I just took the plunge and upgraded (again!) to a q6600 from an original upgrade to an e7400. After upgrading the enclosure.db it appears to be working normally, albeit a little hotter and noisier than it did before.

I'm still digging around to see if this is something where I messed up somewhere or this is the new normal. I was initially very reticent about the procedure, but modern cpu switching is pretty painless. From my experience the e series upgrade is generally a drop in which will run cooler, whereas the q chip requires editing some configuration files and, so far, does run hotter.
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spiderman1
Guide

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

How is the overall performance of the q6600 in terms of file copying and transcoding of 1080p movies?

Thanks
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spiderman1
Guide

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

I have now upgraded my Readynas Pro with a Q6600 and it screams. I can transcode blu-ray at 5120 kbits/s using the Air Video without any jittering or interruptions whatsoever.

Here are how my temp and fan readings while idle:

Fan SYS 856 RPM OK
Fan CPU 1854 RPM OK
Temp SYS 54 C / 129 F [Normal 0-65 C / 32-149 F] OK
Temp CPU 27 C / 80 F [Normal 0-85 C / 32-185 F] OK

Here are how my temp and fan readings while transcoding one stream at 5120:

Fan SYS 922 RPM OK
Fan CPU 3182 RPM OK
Temp SYS 54 C / 129 F [Normal 0-65 C / 32-149 F] OK
Temp CPU 45 C / 113 F [Normal 0-85 C / 32-185 F] OK


hdparm -t -T /dev/c/c

/dev/c/c:
Timing cached reads: 8410 MB in 2.00 seconds = 4211.72 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 1208 MB in 3.00 seconds = 402.16 MB/sec



HTOP


1 [||||||||||||||||############################96.7%] Tasks: 64, 56 thr; 6 running
2 [||||||||||||||||||||||||||##################91.4%] Load average: 3.36 1.19 0.89
3 [||||||||||||||##############################94.0%] Uptime: 03:24:04
4 [||||||||||||||||||||||||####################96.7%]
Mem[|||||||||||||||#**********************1164/3956MB]
Swp[ 0/2047MB]


I hope this helps any of you who are toying with the idea of upgrading your Readynas Pro to a Q6600. For $70 from ebay, it's sweet indeed!
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dhl
Luminary
Luminary

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Well that was easy! 😄

Dropped in a E6700 SL9ZF purchased on eBay for $23. Took about 2 minutes (I spent more time cleaning the enclosure).

BEFORE CPU:
ReadyNAS_Pro:/# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 15
model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz
stepping : 13
cpu MHz : 1795.269
cache size : 1024 KB

AFTER CPU:
ReadyNAS_Pro:/# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 15
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6700 @ 2.66GHz
stepping : 6
cpu MHz : 2660.311
cache size : 4096 KB


BEFORE - timed reads (best of 10)
ReadyNAS_Pro:/# hdparm -t -T /dev/c/c

/dev/c/c:
Timing cached reads: 2520 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1260.87 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 396 MB in 3.00 seconds = 131.91 MB/sec


AFTER - timed reads (best of 10)
ReadyNAS_Pro:/# hdparm -t -T /dev/c/c

/dev/c/c:
Timing cached reads: 9502 MB in 2.00 seconds = 4759.45 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 436 MB in 3.03 seconds = 143.73 MB/sec


BEFORE - temperatures and fans
Fan SYS	897 RPM		OK
Fan CPU 1971 RPM OK
Temp SYS 56 C / 132 F [Normal 0-65 C / 32-149 F] OK
Temp CPU 38.5 C / 101 F [Normal 0-85 C / 32-185 F] OK


AFTER - temperatures and fans
Fan SYS	932 RPM		OK
Fan CPU 2083 RPM OK
Temp SYS 56 C / 132 F [Normal 0-65 C / 32-149 F] OK
Temp CPU 27 C / 80 F [Normal 0-85 C / 32-185 F] OK


Maybe it's my imagination but Frontview seems much snappier. So does connecting and viewing files in the Finder.

Great upgrade - totally worth it and recommended! Thanks everyone, for your help! :woot:
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dsm1212
Apprentice

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Good results. I've never gotten to the bottom of why my e7600 system does so poorly at the hdparm test. I'm getting:

# hdparm -t -T /dev/c/c

/dev/c/c:
Timing cached reads: 3692 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1846.18 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: ^[[A776 MB in 3.01 seconds = 258.22 MB/sec
warehouse6:/c/home/admin# hdparm -t -T /dev/c/c

I'm definitely using inexpensive 4TB drives (unsupported) but it seems like these results are off by 2-3x. Not that I'm complaining. I've got the box doing a lot of stuff and having no issues. Just seems like something is wrong. No uncorrectable reads on any drives or errors in /var/log. System looks mostly idle when I ran the above command several times. It makes me wonder if have a performance setting I should change. I think I have them all enabled in frontview (I've got a ups). Any suggestions?

steve
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Xaver
Tutor

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Well,

I have a E7600 now with this stats:
processor       : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 23
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7600 @ 3.06GHz
stepping : 10
cpu MHz : 3059.458
cache size : 3072 KB

and
/dev/c/c:
Timing cached reads: 3824 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1912.23 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 1330 MB in 3.00 seconds = 442.90 MB/sec

I can't complain but if you find some tweaks please let me know.
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fastfwd
Virtuoso

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Yeah, the variation from machine to machine is pretty odd; dsm1212 and I discussed that briefly on pages 10 and 11 of this thread.

My CPU is still a 2.4GHz E6600:
NAS1:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 15
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
stepping : 6
cpu MHz : 1596.000
cache size : 4096 KB


And my current speeds (best cached of 10 and best direct of 10 shown below) are still higher than those reported for Pros with 3GHz E7600 CPUs:
NAS1:~# hdparm -t -T /dev/c/c

/dev/c/c:
Timing cached reads: 8154 MB in 2.00 seconds = 4086.48 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 1500 MB in 3.00 seconds = 499.84 MB/sec

NAS1:~# hdparm -t -T /dev/c/c

/dev/c/c:
Timing cached reads: 7380 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3697.88 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 1606 MB in 3.00 seconds = 535.15 MB/sec
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dsm1212
Apprentice

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Feel like I've done this before...

It's tempting to think it must be something with the drives, but the first result from hdparm is just reading from disk cache in memory. That leads me to think my memory might be running slow and then when I tried to investigate that I couldn't find any way to get the machine to tell me the speed the memory was running at. I still think it could be an issue with memory speed. It's the 8GB Patriot DIMM that a number of others here bought, but I'm suspicious.

steve
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dsm1212
Apprentice

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

There are some differences in our disk configuration so it's the first numbers for "Timing cached reads" that I'm more interested in. I downloaded some software called ramspeed and it shows my system getting about the same 4GB/s that fastfwd gets from hdparm. Near as I can tell that seems to be the right number for 800MHz DDR2. So whatever is going on in my system it seems to be specific to running hdparm.
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hoogends1
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Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

Just wanted to add that i upgraded my RNDP600E (ReadyNAS Pro Pioneer) with an E7600 CPU.
Thanks to this thread all went well !!
🙂
Message 247 of 285
menkelis
Tutor

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

I just installed a E7600 in my Ready-NAS PRO.
Simple, fast, and the best $20.00 upgrade.
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sander11
Aspirant

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

I haven't been keeping up on the OS 6 thread to see if anyone has upgraded to OS6 after replacing the cpu and if the unsupported OS6 is as hackable as the older OSes. I wouldn't mind being on a newer kernel where I could use KVM.
Of course the other deal breaker is the factory reset, but that sounds unavoidable.
OS6 with replaced cpus and maybe fans, would be the ultimate frankenas!
Message 249 of 285
Sandshark
Sensei

Re: More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro

I haven't been keeping up on the OS 6 thread to see if anyone has upgraded to OS6 after replacing the cpu and if the unsupported OS6 is as hackable as the older OSes. I wouldn't mind being on a newer kernel where I could use KVM.

Some certainly have and I think I'm about to. I only went to the E6600 since I already had one I had pulled from a Windoze machine that I went quad on, but I'm about to get another and may go to E6700. I don't do transcoding, so the E6600 was more than enough boost for me.

My take on OS6 is that it's more hackable because it's based on a more up-to-date kernel, so there is more that's compatible. I'm not a Linux guru and have stuck mostly with the pre-compiled install packages for RAIDiator, so I'm going in deeper with OS6.
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