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Re: All internet settings on router vanished after I changed the SSID password.

WantNotTexhNot
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All internet settings on router vanished after I changed the SSID password.

As stated above, additionally, my main PC, now plugged into LAN on router, reads as 'Device is blocked by Access Control in the router'.

Other PC will connect wirelessly, and the internet settings fields are empty there as well. No efforts to reset with prior i formation have been successful.

Please help.

Please help.
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WantNotTexhNot
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Internet Sertings Vanished

As stated above, additionally, my main PC, now plugged into LAN on router, reads as 'Device is blocked by Access Control in the router'.
Other PC will connect wirelessly, and the internet settings fields are empty there as well. No efforts to reset with prior inormation have been successful.

Please help.

Please help.
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Re: All internet settings on router vanished after I changed the SSID password.


@WantNotTexhNot wrote:
As stated above, additionally, my main PC, now plugged into LAN on router, reads as 'Device is blocked by Access Control in the router'.


Hard to follow what is going on there. 

 

Where do you see this message?

 

As to the subject "All internet settings on router vanished", where are you looking?

 



Other PC will connect wirelessly, and the internet settings fields are empty there as well. 

Empty in what? Are you using a web browser and the graphical user interface (GUI)?

 


No efforts to reset with prior i formation have been successful.


What do you mean by "reset". You have factory reset the R6220?

 

How do I perform a factory reset on my NETGEAR router? | Answer | NETGEAR Support

 

Finally, what modem/gateway/ONT (make and model) connects the router to the internet?


Disclaimer: Just another user with time on their hands.

Message 3 of 14
WantNotTexhNot
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Re: All internet settings on router vanished after I changed the SSID password.

"Where do you see this message?"

The message 'Device Blocked in Access Control,' appears when I enter router management settings at 192.168.1.1, using browser.

"As to the subject 'All internet settings on router vanished', where are you looking?"

In the router management section titled "Internet Setup"

No, I have not reset the router using factory settings.
This view of the empty occurs when I attempt to re-enter the prior known configurations in Advanced> Internet Setup.
There it asks for Internet IP address, DNS Address, and Router MAC Address.

The Modem is from Charter Spectrum: D3.1 2.5G eMTA
Model: ES2251

You have asked for the Gateway info.
Not seeing how it would be safe to place that in an open forum.

Thank you for parsing out my inquiry.
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CrimpOn
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Re: All internet settings on router vanished after I changed the SSID password.

If the router will not allow access, there is no opportunity to make any changes.  Although a Factory Reset is often thought of as a Last Resort (because it erases any configurations the user may have done - in my case about two hours of typo-ridden entries), this seems to the situation here.

 

I would Factory Reset this unit and start from scratch.

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Re: All internet settings on router vanished after I changed the SSID password.


@WantNotTexhNot wrote:

You have asked for the Gateway info.
Not seeing how it would be safe to place that in an open forum.


I asked for the "make and model" of the modem/gateway/ONT. There is nothing special or private about that. It is essential detail to help to track down what might be going on on your network.

 

You say you have a "Charter Spectrum: D3.1 2.5G eMTA". That doesn't show up in the Spectrum system, but it is probably a plain vanilla modem. None of the wifi stuff that would add router capabilities.

 



The message 'Device Blocked in Access Control,' appears when I enter router management settings at 192.168.1.1, using browser.


This suggests that at some time you enabled the router's setting to block or limit the access to the network.

 

ADVANCED > Security > Access Control.

 

You may also have Block all new devices from connecting enabled.

 

If you cannot use a web browser to access the graphical user interface (GUI) for any reason, the "factory reset" is pretty well our only option.

 


This view of the empty occurs when I attempt to re-enter the prior known configurations in Advanced> Internet Setup.
There it asks for Internet IP address, DNS Address, and Router MAC Address.

There's normally nothing there that you can fill. The Internet IP address is in the hands of your ISP. Most ISPs will change this from time to time. Very few ISPs hand out permanent IP addresses. When they do, they may charge for the privilege.

 

The Mac is also a detail that the GUI picks up from the router. It is also written on the router's label along with other useful default details. Unless your ISP tells you otherwise, you rarely need to do anything there.

 

The DNS is also something often best left to the ISP. Mess with it only when you have good reasons to do so.

 

The only information that you need to think about if the login credentials (username and, if needed, password) to connect to the Internet.

 


Disclaimer: Just another user with time on their hands.

 

 

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WantNotTexhNot
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Re: All internet settings on router vanished after I changed the SSID password.

Well, the odd thing is, it will connect, qnd allow access to router through the additional SSID , which connects at 2.4GHz, but will not allow the settings to 'stick,' as it were.
So, basically, I am operating the PC which will connect without any info on the Subnet and other items visible to me in the settings,, and without being able to unblock the ip address of the other device.

Can't even think about a total reset, as it makes my sromach curl.

Thanks
Message 7 of 14

Re: All internet settings on router vanished after I changed the SSID password.


@CrimpOn wrote:

 

I would Factory Reset this unit and start from scratch.


Often the best option.

 

By the way, the R6220 is an ancient (2016), bottom of the range device with less than startling wifi capabilities.

 


Disclaimer: Just another user with time on their hands.

Message 8 of 14
WantNotTexhNot
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Re: All internet settings on router vanished after I changed the SSID password.

Thanks for that reply.

Yes, there are devices and P addresses blocked in my access control center, and I review them regularly...on the PC which is, itself, now inextricably blocked.

I had reviewed the block list , then changed my SSID password, just before this issue arose.

In Internet Settings I do have the option to enter a static IP, as well as a static DNS address, alongside the option to have thise things be assigned as dynamic.

Following the prior configs, I have sought to choose Dynamic at each point, selecting the bubble for each 'dynamic' option.

I will try again, just for the heck of it, and see if the device which can access the router will allow me to hit 'apply' after I make the welections for IP address, DNS, and MAC address.

Thanks for the overall walk-thorough of terms.



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Re: All internet settings on router vanished after I changed the SSID password.


@WantNotTexhNot wrote:
In Internet Settings I do have the option to enter a static IP, as well as a static DNS address, alongside the option to have thise things be assigned as dynamic.


You may have an option, but if your ISP does not support it you are effectively blocking your connection.

 

What does your ISP say you should do with that setting?

 


Yes, there are devices and P addresses blocked in my access control center, and I review them regularly...on the PC which is, itself, now inextricably blocked.

I had reviewed the block list , then changed my SSID password, just before this issue arose.


What did you block? An IP address? A MAC address? Both of these can change. If that happens your setting will block your own access.

 

The local IP address depends on what your router picks. The MAC address can change because a router may see a different address for wifi over wired.

 

Why did you set up address blocking? 

 

Messing around with those things can cause trouble Leaving things alone with the default settings works for most of us, especially on a basic router like that.

 

Those changes can cause more grief than help. You need to understand what you are doing and why you are doing it.

 


Disclaimer: Just another user with time on their hands.

Message 10 of 14
WantNotTexhNot
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Re: All internet settings on router vanished after I changed the SSID password.

Thanks for all you have said here.
Months ago I signed in and realized that there were tens of dozens of DNS attacks each day.
As my connection was also experiencing unexplained slow speeds, I was frustrated and concerned.

I experienced a better connection after designating the channel I wished each respective SSID to operate on, and determined what worked best for my household with broadcasting/not broadcasting each SSID.

To the issues which brought me here:
I cannot remember if it was a comment from you or the other person, focusing on my PC having been added to the block list, and as I went about the day I remembered that among the changes I'd made just before the crash was a change to the PC's name, one which rather irks me.

Following the change and re-start, both names appeared side by side in the 'About' section of the PC, as well as the 'Allowed Devices' section of the router settings. I had no reason to worry , I thought.
However...after I signed in again, that name change veiled the PC's ID, though neither the IP nor the MAC asdress had changed. Sadly, I had to change the PC name back to that which irks me in to ensure resolution.

I unplugged both modem and router, plugged modem in first waited, then plugged router in, and voila, all systems were a go. (Whew!)
None of my settings were lost.

I will fully concede that there is always the danger of flubbing up my ability to use the router and internet, but I am my only defense against the baddies, so I am trying my best.

Thank you.



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Re: All internet settings on router vanished after I changed the SSID password.


@WantNotTexhNot wrote:
Thanks for all you have said here.
Months ago I signed in and realized that there were tens of dozens of DNS attacks each day.
As my connection was also experiencing unexplained slow speeds, I was frustrated and concerned.


Had you started with that as the issue, you might have saved yourself a lot of grief.

 

Netgear's firmware is great at creating false reports of DoS attacks. Many of them are no such thing.

 

Search - NETGEAR Communities – DoS attacks

 

Use Whois.net to see who is behind some of them and you may find that they are from places like Facebook, Google, even your ISP.

 

Here is a useful tool for that task:

 

IPNetInfo: Retrieve IP Address Information from WHOIS servers

 

If these events are slowing down your router, that may be because it is using up processor time. Anything that uses processor power – event logging, QoS management, traffic metering – may cause slowdowns. Disable logging of DoS attacks and see if that reduces the problem. This does not prevent the router from protecting you from the outside world.

 


Disclaimer: Just another user with time on their hands.

Message 12 of 14

Re: All internet settings on router vanished after I changed the SSID password.


@WantNotTexhNot wrote:
I cannot remember if it was a comment from you or the other person, focusing on my PC having been added to the block list, and as I went about the day I remembered that among the changes I'd made just before the crash was a change to the PC's name, one which rather irks me.

Sounds like one of those things that Windows may have foisted on you.

 

Again, start with the problem and try to work out what caused it and how you can fix that. Other approaches run the risk of knock-on damage somewhere else.

 


I unplugged both modem and router, plugged modem in first waited, then plugged router in, and voila, all systems were a go. (Whew!)
None of my settings were lost.


This is always recommended when you have been messing around with a network.

 

Each bit of he network picks up its cues from the things it see when you turn it on. It begins with the modem. That detects the IP address on the Internet and establishes the connection.

 

The router then sees this and adapts its own settings accordingly. After that, other devices can work out how to connect to your local network and the Internet.

 


Disclaimer: Just another user with time on their hands.

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WantNotTexhNot
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Re: All internet settings on router vanished after I changed the SSID password.

Thank you.
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