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Orbi (Router Mode) using as DHCP server
Can you save off a tracert from the neighbor's PC, and perhaps run a fresh one from yours? Then you can compare the two route paths.
Below is neighbors system that connects to the site, ping and tracert. Below this is mine that does not. 2 postings above this one is a summary of all that was done without success. Both using same ISP. WOW Wideopenwest
Pinging smith-wessonforum.com [208.71.128.50] with 32 bytes of data
Reply from 208.71.128.50: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=53
Reply from 208.71.128.50: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=53
Reply from 208.71.128.50: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=53
Reply from 208.71.128.50: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=53
Ping statistics for 208.71.128.50: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 45ms, Maximum = 46ms, Average = 45ms
tracert smith-wessonforum.com Tracing route to smith-wessonforum.com [208.71.128.50] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 8 ms 18 ms 8 ms 23.28.124.1
2 11 ms 11 ms 10 ms dynamic-76-73-172-93.knology.net [76.73.172.93]
3 9 ms 12 ms 10 ms 76-73-168-108.knology.net [76.73.168.108]
4 10 ms 11 ms 11 ms 76-73-168-106.knology.net [76.73.168.106]
5 11 ms 11 ms 8 ms 76-73-168-104.knology.net [76.73.168.104]
6 24 ms 23 ms 20 ms static-69-73-0-141.knology.net [69.73.0.141]
7 22 ms 21 ms 23 ms dynamic-75-76-35-8.knology.net [75.76.35.8]
8 22 ms 24 ms 23 ms ae14.cr1-chi1.ip4.gtt.net [77.67.77.109]
9 45 ms 43 ms 43 ms xe-2-1-1.cr1-nyc4.ip4.gtt.net [89.149.134.133]
10 43 ms 45 ms 43 ms techie-media-gw.ip4.gtt.net [77.67.71.18]
11 44 ms 46 ms 43 ms mail.smith-wessonforum.com [208.71.128.50]
Trace complete.
Below from my system
Pinging smith-wessonforum.com [208.71.128.50] with 32 bytes of data
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Ping statistics for 208.71.128.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
Tracing route to smith-wessonforum.com [208.71.128.50]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 3 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 10 ms 23.28.124.1 reports: Destination host unreachable.
Trace complete.
Anybody
> [...] could this be a sign of an issue as a result of the use of two
> routers? [...]Perhaps. If I wanted to be sure, then I might run the experiment,
and configure the RBR50 as a wireless access point.Saving the RBR50 settings/configuration file first might make
reversion easier later, if desired.
> [...] I could use the DMZ functionality that comes with the VM box to
> just pass the Orbi traffic straight out. [...]The relevant section in the Orbi User Manual is called "Set up a
default DMZ _server_" for a reason. It affects _incoming_ connections.
You could try it, but my expectations would be low in this case. But,
as with WAP mode, why trust me when the experiment is so easy to run,
and would be much more reliable?> [...] I can play about with the different options [...]
That's what I'd do.
> [...] I might need to get the family to go out for a bit [...]
Stage a catastrophic failure, and diligently "work" on a "solution"?
Everyone might leave spontaneously, and you could be a hero.
DCP4971 wrote:
....and losing the extra Wifi (wihch is always handy for if/when Orbi has a meltdown),Does this happen often?
If the Orbi is sitting next to the modem/router, there's a risk of wifi interference and/or confusion when your wifi clients try to connect to wifi.
The Orbi technology, Mesh, is supposed to make life easier on the wifi front. I'd also expect it to have better wifi than the modem/router.
Doesn't happen so much now, just went through a phase of being really unreliable a few years back, so I built in the fallback of the other wifi and it's just been left as it is. Ordinarily, Orbi is far superior and has the coverage that we need across the house that the Virgin box simply doesn't.
The two routers are close together, but, I've got them on different channels, there are differnet wifi names and checked what other channels are being used by other local wifi to minimise the possiblility of interference.
Suspect I just need to bite the bullet and move the Virgin box to being Modem only and see how it plays out for a while - it just needs a bit of effort to get the Ring etc onto Orbi. I may have some time tomorrow when the family are out..
Am still intrigued about why the PS5 doesn't work as well on Orbi as it does on the Virgin box, but will see how it is after I change to Modem mode.
DCP4971 wrote:
Suspect I just need to bite the bullet and move the Virgin box to being Modem only and see how it plays out for a while
Have you tracked down the instructions on how to do that?
Some of these ISP boxes – think BT – go out of there way to frustrate "modem only" operation. That's why I have three BT modem/routers sitting in their original shrinkwrap.
DCP4971 wrote:
it just needs a bit of effort to get the Ring etc onto Orbi.
THere is a lot of huffing and puffing abut the inability to separate 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz on the Orbi. In reality, it is rarely necessary. But some makers of what the wits call "Internet of Trash" devices are incompetent when it comes to their setup apps. Connect your mobile device to 5GHz and they throw a wobbly because the device they manage works only on 2.4 GHz.
If your IoT stuff is talking to the Virgin box, in your shows I would investigate the switch to the Orbi before I played around with the modem. Then you will have the kit working before you pull the plug on the modem/router.
