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Absolute1
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Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

WhoCares? wrote:
Ok, here we go:

LionAFPd_2.1.3-rns-0.1.2.bin

Wfm,ymmv. Use at your own risk Smiley Wink After installation make sure to manually restart the AFP service using Frontview: "Services" -> "Protocols". Just disable and when finished re-enable. That's it. Same goes for de-installation of the add-on.

-Stefan


Thank you Stefan, works a treat.
Now all you need to fix, is the TimeMachine support :lol:

Thanks
Mike
p.s. had a bit of trouble understanding the German PayPal site, but a donation should be with you
Message 126 of 162
mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

Keep an eye on the public beta forums to see if there's a RAIDiator firmware update. It should be clear from the Release Notes if it includes updated AFP and Time Machine support.
Message 127 of 162
mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

kraized wrote:

And we have no idea whether Netgear will support this on the Sparc ReadyNAS or not?

yoh-dah has confirmed they're working on it: http://twitter.com/#!/yohdah/status/91243931362267136
yoh-dah wrote:

@jasonfoley We're working on it :-) @yohdah any update on Lion support for the NV+?
Message 128 of 162
schalliol
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Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

mdgm wrote:
kraized wrote:

And we have no idea whether Netgear will support this on the Sparc ReadyNAS or not?

yoh-dah has confirmed they're working on it: http://twitter.com/#!/yohdah/status/91243931362267136
yoh-dah wrote:

@jasonfoley We're working on it :-) @yohdah any update on Lion support for the NV+?

:thumbsup:
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Message 129 of 162
jonathanmellon
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Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

Well I have just spoken to Level 2 Support here in the UK and they weren't aware of any issues (however they did obviously say that they don't support any Beta's) but they will check with Level 3. So hopefully they might fix it before Lion is released or at least have a fix ready.
Message 130 of 162
mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

Tech support probably hasn't even looked at testing the ReadyNAS units against Mac OS X Lion yet then (well at least not the Level 2 Support people you spoke to) which isn't that surprising as they don't support betas.

The developers on the other hand would look at betas and be well aware of the issues. The issue is well known and yoh-dah (the head of the Jedi) has indicated on Twitter that they are working on adding Lion support as I mentioned above.
Message 131 of 162
flamesong1
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Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

Well, the word on the street is that Lion will probably be out by the time you read this - Thursday 14th by many accounts.

Hopefully, that will void the 'not supporting betas' excuse.
Message 132 of 162
mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

Some rumours dispute the 14th release.

Once Lion is released I expect NetGear would probably internally distribute support documents regarding it.
Message 133 of 162
flamesong1
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Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

Well, Lion itself isn't without its problems - there is plenty to gripe about and I'm anticipating the official release not just so that Netgear get in gear, but so that the rest of the Mac world will start pelting the Apple Discussion pages with bugs that need addressing.
Message 134 of 162
jelockwood1
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Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

Sometimes developers are lazy and will refuse to even start work on testing and resolving compatibility problems until after an operating system upgrade is officially released even though they would have access to pre-release versions. Sometimes developers will justifiably be able to blame last minute changes in the new operating system release. Neither case applies here to NetGear.

The ReadyNAS like all NAS boxes supporting AFP, relies on an open-source package called Netatalk and in fact NetGear are the leading sponsor of this open-source project and consistently have a more up-to-date implementation in their products than nearly all of their competitors. See http://www.netafp.com/status-of-netatal ... endor-322/

NetGear do however have to wait like everyone else for new releases of Netatalk to be finished and even as a sponser cannot wave a magic wand to alter the release schedule of Netatalk. However Netatalk 2.2beta has already implemented all the needed changes to fully support Lion for both normal AFP access and for Time Machine access. See http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/

Unfortunately for us all, Netatalk 2.2 is still in beta and not yet officially released, I do not expect nor would I want NetGear to rush out a release based on beta code, so at the moment we all have to wait for the Netatalk team to finish the beta-testing of 2.2 and then issue a stable release. Obviously the sooner this happens the better, I am sure the Netatalk team are working hard to do this as soon as possible as they are clearly aware of the imminent release of Lion as they have been working on Lion specific enhancements.


Now if we do want to have something to gripe to NetGear about in terms of Mac support, it could be either sticking with the obsolete Firefly (aka. mt-daapd) code and not working with the (replacement) forked-daapd team to implement that instead, or we could gripe about the fact that the ReadyNAS cannot be linked to Open Directory. Smiley Sad

Allgededly forked-daapd has been successfully ported to the Qnap NAS see http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=37472 I am sure NetGear would not want to be considered inferior to Qnap Smiley Happy Information about the forked-daapd project can be found at http://www.technologeek.org/projects/daapd/index.html and http://blog.technologeek.org/category/h ... rked-daapd and code at http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=use ... -daapd.git

Note: I would have no problems with NetGear only adding support for forked-daapd to x86 based ReadyNAS units if that makes it more practical to achieve.
Message 135 of 162
sphardy1
Guide

Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

Your information is a little out of date: http://www.netafp.com/netafp-netatalk-2 ... lable-437/ though I agree with the sentiment.

As for forked-daapd, it is not a simple matter of porting - Netgear will have to make *major* updates to their basic firmware to enable forked-daap to be supported (eg a whole new libc)

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Message 136 of 162
jelockwood1
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Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

sphardy wrote:
Your information is a little out of date: http://www.netafp.com/netafp-netatalk-2 ... lable-437/ though I agree with the sentiment.

As for forked-daapd, it is not a simple matter of porting - Netgear will have to make *major* updates to their basic firmware to enable forked-daap to be supported (eg a whole new libc)

Thanks for the alternate link about Netatalk 2.2.0, if accurate (the official Netatalk site I also linked to seems to suggest otherwise) then that is good news.

With regards to libc, yes I had read about this problem, but firstly the person who got forked-daapd working on a Qnap managed to get round that same exact problem, and secondly I would suggest NetGear need to bite the bullet and upgrade (at least on the x86 models) their libraries.
Message 137 of 162
mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

Well the rumours are now indicating that Mac OS X Lion may well be released this week and that Apple Stores have been receiving Golden Master copies of Mac OS X Lion.
Message 138 of 162
mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

Well Apple has announced it'll release Mac OS X Lion tomorrow!
Message 139 of 162
akeiler
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Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

mdgm wrote:
Well Apple has announced it'll release Mac OS X Lion tomorrow!


So any ETA or info on a FW update would be appreciated - I am running three Macs with TimeMachine/ReadyNAS so I'm "stuck" with Snow Leopard until that issue is solved.

(Not really "stuck" of course, but I wanted to update at least one of my Macs very soon)...
:wink:
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Message 140 of 162
mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

yoh-dah has posted an ETA for x86 on Twitter!: http://twitter.com/#!/yohdah/status/93576735983009792
yoh-dah wrote:

@stannenb We'll have a release for x86 Wed. Sparc release will follow at a later date as we're working out some issues there.
Message 141 of 162
jonathanmellon
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Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

Well Lion has now been released, so does anyone know if the new RAIDiator which yoo-dah says should fix the issue has been released yet?
Message 142 of 162
WiteWulf
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Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

mdgm wrote:
yoh-dah has posted an ETA for x86 on Twitter!: http://twitter.com/#!/yohdah/status/93576735983009792
yoh-dah wrote:

@stannenb We'll have a release for x86 Wed. Sparc release will follow at a later date as we're working out some issues there.


Great news, can't wait to get this going, hopefully it won't take too long to iron out the SPARC issues (which I'm sure are down to them running such an archaic Debian release).
Message 143 of 162
mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

Yes lots of backporting would probably be needed for Sparc. Could be some other issues as well.

The new RAIDiator has not been released yet. yoh-dah's based at NetGear HQ so he's possibly just waking up to a new day.

Just to be clear x86 ReadyNAS are those with Intel CPUs (i.e. NVX, Ultra, Pro, 1500, 2100, 3200, 3100, 4200). Sparc ReadyNAS (have Infrant Sparc CPU) are e.g. Duo, NV+, 1100, Infrant ReadyNAS, old OEM rebrands.

yoh-dah said x86 firmware (As he didn't say I don't know if this will be a public beta or production release, but I'd expect it'd probably be a beta) is due today.
Message 144 of 162
eBiBy
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Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

Hi @ all!

I have a very strange behaviour on this...

I have 2 Duos with both the same RAIDiator (4.1.7) and the same protocols enabled (AFP and FTP ).

After upgrading today to Mac OS 10.7 (LION) I am getting the following:

NAS 1: I can connect over AFP and all is fine.
NAS 2; The error of an outdated protocol is displayed...


(sorry for the German error message)

Anyone else have this?

BR
Sven
NAS: Readynas Duo with 2 x 1TB X-Raid and 1GB RAM
Switch: Netgear GS108v2
Computer: yes, i have one
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Message 145 of 162
mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

Getting an error is to be expected. I haven't installed Lion yet (I've just purchased and downloaded it), but this thread has indicated several times that there will need to be a firmware update to add Lion compatibility.
Message 146 of 162
eBiBy
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Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

The strange thing is as described above...

2 x ReadyNas DUO with RADiator 4.1.7

One works, the other not...
NAS: Readynas Duo with 2 x 1TB X-Raid and 1GB RAM
Switch: Netgear GS108v2
Computer: yes, i have one
Streaming Sound: Logitech SqueezeBox Boom
Message 147 of 162
mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

eBiBy Are you using guest access with one? Or using CIFS rather than AFP on one?
Message 148 of 162
eBiBy
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Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

Both are used only with authentication.
Both are using AFP only (as you can see above)
NAS: Readynas Duo with 2 x 1TB X-Raid and 1GB RAM
Switch: Netgear GS108v2
Computer: yes, i have one
Streaming Sound: Logitech SqueezeBox Boom
Message 149 of 162
eBiBy
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Re: AFP Out Of Date In OS X Lion

I have to correct myself...
The one working had Guest enabled... And this was the working one...
NAS: Readynas Duo with 2 x 1TB X-Raid and 1GB RAM
Switch: Netgear GS108v2
Computer: yes, i have one
Streaming Sound: Logitech SqueezeBox Boom
Message 150 of 162
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