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Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
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Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
Hi,
I just updated my ReadyNas Ultra 6 from OS4 to OS6 -6.9.4 to be precise.
Pretty much everything is working aside from the fans who are showing as 0 RPM in the manager while they're running full speed IRL.
Is there a way to get some auto control nback or am I stuck with that ?
Thanks a lot for any help.
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
It's possible that editing the sensor configuration with ssh might fix it. But I haven't had to do that, so I'm not sure exactly what change would be needed.
You might want to compare /etc/frontview/sensors/ULTRA6.conf with /etc/sensors.d/system.conf. I believe they should be the same. This would require ssh access.
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
I have recently updated frm OS4 to OS6 on my ReadyNAS Ultra 6 Plus (with upgraded processor and new fans too). Although I am not facing the same situation I noticed that after upgrading sensors configuration for my NAS are as follows:
/etc/sensors.d/system.conf is a symbolic link to /etc/frontview/sensors/NV6.conf
With this configuration my NAS is indeed showing up two fans (System and CPU) and two temps. Fans seem to be fairly well behaving... however, they do not seem to respond to changing the cooling profile from (Quiet to Cool or Balanced)... at least not on the graph where speed do change but seems to be unrelated to whatever is being shown.
I tried to fix it by changing the symbolic link to point to ULTRA6.conf under /etc/frontview/sensors but after rebooting the NAS I experienced something similar to your situation where the Sytem FAN seems to stop (and it seems sometimes it actually does as no air seems to flow from the rear). With it pointing to NV6.conf seems to recognize both fans and keep them spinning... although I do not seem to get accurate control of their speed.
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
@Smaky wrote:
however, they do not seem to respond to changing the cooling profile from (Quiet to Cool or Balanced)... at least not on the graph where speed do change but seems to be unrelated to whatever is being shown.
If the temps are already low, then changing the profile might not matter.
Did you try putting the NAS under some load? Doing a scrub would do it (though one disadvantage is that you can't cancel it). You could also try a very long transfer test with NASTester. http://www.808.dk/?code-csharp-nas-performance Then see if the various profiles make any difference.
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
Well my NAS has been resynching discs for the last couple of days. It is currently CPU at 49° C @ 1406 RPM and System at 63° C @ 2109 RPM. What makes me think something is off is the fact that CPU fan is a Thermaltake fan 80x80x15 mm rated from 1200 to 2400 RPM. I have never seen the CPU fan go over 1500 RPM though.
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
@Smaky wrote:
Well my NAS has been resynching discs for the last couple of days. It is currently CPU at 49° C @ 1406 RPM and System at 63° C @ 2109 RPM.
How are the disk temps?
Do you recall the typical fan speeds before the conversion?
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
Disk temps seem to be similar to what I used to have in OS4 (for the WD RED NAS drives betwee 44° C and fior the HGST drives a bit over 46-48°C . Right now since I upgraded to OS6 I have been adding drives one at a time to the array so NAS has been stressed for over 5 days rebuilding the array and expanding . So I would think this might be "normal".
Although I cannot recall fan speeds when OS4 was installed, I do remember the fans seemed to be louder, specially while booting up the NAS. Today. although I have set the profile to cool (to kind of forcing the fans to max throughput), they seem to be quiter that they used to be.
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
NV6.conf is the correct configuration for an Ultra6 Plus. It has the same motherboard as the Pro6. which apparently was orignally going to be called the NV6. The Ultra6 (non-plus) is an entirely different archetecture. On my Pro6, there is a system.conf and a pro6-fan.conf. pro6.fan.conf contains the following:
chip "w83627dhg-*" ignore fan3
I'm not exactly sure how that could make the difference, but you could give it a shot.
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
It has been stable for the most part... I did some modifications to the NV6.conf file such as stablishing min and max speeds for the fans.. however I have not noticed any change in behavior of the fans so far. Still getting arounf 1,400 RPM for the CPU fan and 2100 RPM for the System fan. Oddly enough.. the System fan which is a Noctua Noctua NF-F12 iPPC-2000 (rated from 450 to 2000 RPM)... so not sure why it is showing up 2100 (probably just because of the error margin in the fan).
Anyways, I have just bought a Noctua NF-F12 iPPC 3000 PWM rated at 3000 RPM max... and will test with it. Only caveat this is a 4 pin PWM fan but I think it should also work from the 3 pin header in the system board. Anyways.. I am just waiting for a memory upgrade to come in to open the NAS again and do some testing with this fan.
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
Today I decided to replace the 80x80x15mm fan on top of the CPU heatsink with a Sanyo Denki 9GA0812P7G001.This is a 6100 rpm rated fan that is supposed to provide 50.9 CFM.
However upon restart of the NAS I noticed the system performance tab would show the fan spinning at a maximum of 2445 rpm even when set to the Cool profile.
What adjustments would I need to do to the NV6.conf file so the fan actually performs as per its specs?
I modified NV6.conf and changed "set fan2_max 6100" in it. However, upon another restart from the NAS I am noticing that the fan now reports to be spinning at about 1800 RPM (even less than with the original value of 2400 I had there.
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
Do you have an Ultra 6 Plus or an Ultra 6? I believe nv6.conf is for the pro-6 and the ultra-6 plus.
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
ls -all /etc/sensors.d will show you which .conf file is in use on your system,. It will be ULTRA6.conf for an Ultra 6 (non-plus) or NV6.conf for an Ultra6Plus.
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
@Sandshark wrote:ls -all /etc/sensors.d will show you which .conf file is in use on your system,. It will be ULTRA6.conf for an Ultra 6 (non-plus) or NV6.conf for an Ultra6Plus.
Thanks for your feedback... the system is using the NV6.conf file and that's where I have done the adjustments to the fan2 config:
label fan2 "CPU" set fan2_min 1200 set fan2_max 6100
However, with this configuration the fan rarely goes beyond 1,800 rpm @ a CPU temp of 51 °C
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
Is your CPU fan plugged into the 4-pin header near the CPU or the 3-pin one on the I/O board? Is there any .conf file in /etc/sensors.d other than system.conf, which points to NV6.conf? If so, what does it contain?
My Pro6's NV6.conf file has no fan max entries. Maybe adding them in is creating a problem?
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
@Sandshark wrote:Is your CPU fan plugged into the 4-pin header near the CPU or the 3-pin one on the I/O board? Is there any .conf file in /etc/sensors.d other than system.conf, which points to NV6.conf? If so, what does it contain?
My Pro6's NV6.conf file has no fan max entries. Maybe adding them in is creating a problem?
this is what I have on the sensords.d directory:
ls -all /etc/sensors.d total 8 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 72 Jul 13 21:49 . drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2586 Jul 3 18:30 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Apr 23 2012 .placeholder -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32 Jul 11 21:50 pro6-fan.conf lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Jul 11 21:51 system.conf -> /etc/frontview/sensors/NV6.conf
all that's is included in pro6-fan.conf (which seems to be recreated if I simply delete it) is:
chip "w83627dhg-*" ignore fan3
And my fulll NV6.conf file is as follows:
chip "coretemp-isa-0000" label temp1 "Core0" compute temp1 @%35, @%35 label temp2 "CPU" compute temp2 @%35, @%35 set temp2_max 75 set temp2_max_hyst 60 label temp3 "Core2" compute temp3 @%35, @%35 label temp4 "Core3" compute temp4 @%35, @%35 label temp5 "Core4" compute temp5 @%35, @%35 label temp6 "Core5" compute temp6 @%35, @%35 # label temp2 "CPU" # compute temp2 @%35, @%35 ignore temp1 ignore temp3 ignore temp4 ignore temp5 ignore temp5 chip "w83627dhg-isa-*" label in1 "DDB18" set in1_min 1.62 set in1_max 1.98 label in2 "AVCC" set in2_min 3.3 * 0.90 set in2_max 3.3 * 1.10 label in3 VCC3 set in3_min 3.3 * 0.90 set in3_max 3.3 * 1.10 label in4 VCC1_25 set in4_min 1.17 set in4_max 1.32 label in5 "VCC1_5" set in5_min 1.41 set in5_max 1.58 label in6 "VCC1_05" set in6_min 0.98 set in6_max 1.10 set in7_min 3.3 * 0.90 set in7_max 3.3 * 1.10 set in8_min 3.0 * 0.90 set in8_max 3.3 * 1.10 label fan1 "System" set fan1_min 450 set fan1_max 2000 label fan2 "CPU" set fan2_min 1200 set fan2_max 6100 label fan3 "System" set fan3_min 450 set fan3_max 2000 ignore fan4 ignore fan5 label temp1 "System" set temp1_max 80 ignore temp2 ignore temp3 ignore cpu0_vid ignore intrusion0
You may notice I was tinkering with the temps on the CPU since the Xeon processor is a 4 core CPU that is properly recognized by the NAS. However I have not yet been able to identify what other "temps" are valid and decided to simply keep the file as it was originally, ignoring all other temps but the temp2 which is referred as CPU in the original NV6.conf file.
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
That looks like what I have, except for the max speeds on the fans. Mine has none. My CPU fan is connected to the 4-pin header near the CPU. I know some Pro models were shipped with a three-pin fan plugged into the I/O board, which I assume is one of the ignored fans. I don't know if any Ultra6Plus's were shipped with the 3-pin fan.
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
@Sandshark wrote:That looks like what I have, except for the max speeds on the fans. Mine has none. My CPU fan is connected to the 4-pin header near the CPU. I know some Pro models were shipped with a three-pin fan plugged into the I/O board, which I assume is one of the ignored fans. I don't know if any Ultra6Plus's were shipped with the 3-pin fan.
My Ultra 6 Plus has a CPU Fan contolled by PWM by means of a 4 pin header next to the CPU in the NAS MB. There are two 3 pin headers in the daughter board that has the Ethernet connections on it but it is the 3-pin system fan which is connected to it. The other heather in that board is not used.
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
I downloaded the logs from the NAS to try to figure out how to adjust the fan max speeds to allow for better cooling. looking at the boot_info.log file I noticed the "type" for the fans are set to 1500...
cause: normal vendor: NETGEAR model: ReadyNAS Ultra 6 Plus model_valid: 1 version: 1 serial: 2H1314R000076 loader: RNDP600U-V2 max_chan: 6 xraid: 1 mode: 1 fginit: 0 iscsi: 1 stream: 1 no-edition: 1 ads: 0 10gige: 0 replication: 0 teaming: 0 vault_promo_1: 0 vault_promo_2: 1 pcbid: 1 board_rev: 0001 system_rev: 0003 watchdog: 0 jbod: 0 auto: 0 minrpm: 1024 minpwm: 5 maxtemp0: 65 mintemp0: 0 maxtemp1: 85 mintemp1: 0 maxtemp2: 0 mintemp2: 0 cpu_target: 50 cpu_tolerance: 3 labelvol0: VCOR minvol0: 0.00 maxvol0: 0.00 labelvol1: DDB18 minvol1: 1.70 maxvol1: 1.89 labelvol2: AVCC minvol2: 3.12 maxvol2: 3.47 labelvol3: VCC3 minvol3: 2.96 maxvol3: 3.63 labelvol4: VCC1_25 minvol4: 1.17 maxvol4: 1.32 labelvol5: VCC1_5 minvol5: 1.41 maxvol5: 1.58 labelvol6: VCC1_05 minvol6: 0.98 maxvol6: 1.10 labelvol7: 3VDUAL minvol7: 3.12 maxvol7: 3.47 labelvol8: VBAT minvol8: 2.96 maxvol8: 3.63 labelvol9: minvol9: 0.00 maxvol9: 0.00 labelfan0: SYS reqfan0: 1 selffan0: 0 altfan0: 4 minfan0: 900 typefan0: 1500 labelfan1: CPU reqfan1: 1 selffan1: 1 altfan1: 0 minfan1: 150 typefan1: 150 labelfan2: CAS reqfan2: 0 selffan2: 0 altfan2: 0 minfan2: 900 typefan2: 1500 labelfan3: reqfan3: 0 selffan3: 0 altfan3: 0 minfan3: 0 typefan3: 0 labelfan4: reqfan4: 0 selffan4: 0 altfan4: 0 minfan4: 0 typefan4: 0 rcause: 0 ssh: 1399181300
Which of course is not the max speed these fans can achieve. Nor setting the set fan2_max 6100 seems to get the fan spin anything over 2200 RPM.
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Re: Fan control on RadyNas Umtra 6 with OS 6
A native OS6 NAS doesn't have all that stuff in boot_info.log, so I wonder if it's being used at all.