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Newbee needs help !!!

bkm23
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Newbee needs help !!!

Hi to all,

Just bought the new ReadyNas Ultra 2 RND200U one yesterday, got 2 HDD inside (2x2TB), I want to make 4 accounts, one private to me, one to the family to share, one for the job files, and other for family members to put their stuff in, and all these accounts must be FTP or easier way to access over the internet, how can I login to only my accout not user in FTP, and how to give everyone the right permissions, I've tried to play a little in the Secutiry, add users and groups, but couldnt login to any other user accounts on the NAS, only the admin one, the ReadyNAS Remote program is good, but where does it put all the files that I upload to it???

Im confused, its a cool device, but need an easy FTP way to get the family folders to work, and I dont want anyone to access or see the job folder and my own stuff.

Here is what I made untill now, and using the ReadyNAS wiki stuff
- Added the users accounts in the device.
- Made two groups for test reason
- Confugured FTP, and set the prefrences in security to Share Home Folders (or what ever that was)
- Entered my ip address in the browser IE9 Win 7 64bit SP1 and entered the password and was able see the files and make ones too, but its the admin that Im logging in.
- Im able from work to access even the FrontView with ipaddress/admin via http.

Need help please

thanks in advance
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sphardy1
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Re: Newbee needs help !!!

For general access guidance see here - while this deals with CIFS (ie the protocol used by Windows to connect to your NAS), the same principle applies to FTP also

When logging into your NAS from Windows (not via a browser) - see this article which might explain why you can only login as admin
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bkm23
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Re: Newbee needs help !!!

Thanks for the fast replay, I will look into it and write back.
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bkm23
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Re: Newbee needs help !!!

I read it, thanks for the good materials, but they are talking about PCs connected to NAS within a network, is it the same on the internet ?? how do I get the hostname of the PCs on the internet so they can open and upload files to my NAS, they use many PCs so I cannot use their IP address instead of host name, and I did upload a file via ReadyNAS Remote, where are those files now, when I was connected to the ftp page, the backup and media folders where the only one available, where is the folder that I used?
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sphardy1
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Re: Newbee needs help !!!

bkm23 wrote:
I read it, thanks for the good materials, but they are talking about PCs connected to NAS within a network, is it the same on the internet ??

Essentially - Yes. Though you tend to use different protocols on a local network (eg CIFS) vs access via the internet (eg FTP)

how do I get the hostname of the PCs on the internet so they can open and upload files to my NAS, they use many PCs so I cannot use their IP address instead of host name

You appear to have only read the post and not the guide linked to in that post. Please read the guide - as you will see there is no requirement to know either name nor the IP address to control access, which is based on username/password. Additional security can be applied if you *do* know the name/ip address, but in your scenario you don't and so you cannot apply that additional security - very normal when enabling internet based access

I did upload a file via ReadyNAS Remote, where are those files now, when I was connected to the ftp page, the backup and media folders where the only one available, where is the folder that I used?

If you are having difficulties with ReadyNAS Remote, I would recommend you post a separate topic in the dedicated forum for that product: http://www.readynas.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=75
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bkm23
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Re: Newbee needs help !!!

Im sorry for bothering you more for this, but still dont get it, Im totally noob when it comes to network and share, but the NAS thing is cool, I want to just share with some privacy, I can only login to admin, can I login by using an account instead of admin, Im using only internet, this NAS is connected to my router and port forwarded the 443 and 21, 20 ports, I cant just give everyone a admin account password so they can make a mess, itried to give a colleague a ftp admin@ipaddress so he can login and try, but tried to create a user with his name and different password, but he couldnt login, only the admin works, how can I make another account that can be used as login instead of admin?? I know this is getting too long and boring, but really need help with this.
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sphardy1
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Re: Newbee needs help !!!

Your query is far too broad to answer in a simple post - you're effectively asking for a complete tutorial on how to setup your NAS for local & remote access

Have you read the basic user guide? http://www.readynas.com/download/docume ... June11.pdf

It's not as complete as perhaps it should be, but there is information on creating user accounts, shares (where you store your data), and controlling access to shares - use that in conjunction with the previous links I provided (which cover much of the missing info from guide) and you should have the basics.

I would suggest you first focus on setting the NAS up so you can access it the way you wish on your local network, and only then think about remote access from the internet. Also - be prepared to spend some time experimenting and don't be in a rush to give access to friends & family. A NAS is not the simplest of devices as there are so many configuration options and different ways that people wish to use them, so you need to get familiar with the device to make it fit your requirements. But then you can focus your questions on more specific areas that you need help with
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bkm23
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Re: Newbee needs help !!!

It seems so, there is alot of job to do to make it work as intended, I will as you said try to integrate it into the home network before understanding the internet sharing, thanks again.
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sphardy1
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Re: Newbee needs help !!!

A simple overview for you that might get you kicked started and enable you to do some searching on terms:

In its default configuration the NAS simple provides a single large protected data storage area. (~2TB in your case)

That storage can be split into "Shares" - each share just being a separate folder in the storage area but to which access can be controlled. The only limit to the size of the share is however much disk space is available. *ALL* data must be stored in a share - there is no where else to store it.

How shares are access is dependant on the OS and network protocol you use - the supported protocols being:

- CIFS - (often called SMB also) typically, but not exclusively, used for local Windows Access
- AFP - only used for local Mac Access
- NFS - typically, but not exclusively, used for local linux access
- FTP - typically for remote access under any OS
- HTTP - also typically for remote access under any OS
- rsync - for certain specialised backup requirements

For each protocol, access to the share is controlled via user accounts - you create an account on the NAS for each user - with associated password - and can then grant each user either no access, ready-only access, or read-write access per protocol. Some protocols also support a "guest" user so that you can share data without someone needing a user account.

Those are the basics - so to setup your NAS you need to
1. Create user accounts - one per person accessing the NAS
2. Create shares as needed (you have "media" and "backup" by default, but you may wish to add more)
3. Setup appropriate access to those shares, per protocol, for each user.
4. (Optionally) enable remote access to the NAS for certain protocols

The ReadyNAS User Manual fully covers steps 1 & 2. The links provided earlier cover step 3 in more detail, in particular using "groups" should you have many users so that you can restrict access for groups of users rather than each one individually. Step 4 you appear to have covered already
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fairway
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Re: Newbee needs help !!!

sphardy: "Your query is far too broad to answer in a simple post - you're effectively asking for a complete tutorial on how to setup your NAS for local & remote access."

I agree that this query shouldn't even be posted. The tutorial should be part of the documentation.

sphardy: "For each protocol, access to the share is controlled via user accounts - you create an account on the NAS for each user - with associated password - and can then grant each user either no access, ready-only access, or read-write access per protocol. Some protocols also support a "guest" user so that you can share data without someone needing a user account."

What about media and backup? How are they controlled? Which protocol supports a "guest" user? Which shares can this "guest" user access? Which shares are not visible to the "guest" user? How do I create a guest1 user that can only access the guest1 share and nother else, including no access to media and backup shares?
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mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: Newbee needs help !!!

The access is configured per share. So under Shares > Share Listing > Sharename you configure the settings for each protocol (can only do this if protocol is already enabled under Services > Standard File Protocols). You can see if guest/anonymous access is an option under Shares > Share Listing > Sharename > Protocol.

If you share a share over HTTP and redirect http://ip.address.of.nas to it, the share can only have read only access over http/s.

You can't create a guest user. A guest user is a user who can access the share with no need to enter a username or password. However if simple guest access is not enough you could create a user "Fred" (or whatever you like to call it) with a simple password that is easy to remember and give that user access only to a particular share (be sure to not put that user in a group that has access to other shares).
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