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ronlaws86
May 31, 2018Guide
btrfs corruption AGAIN
So I noticed today after trying to write a file to the nas that it was read only (Access denied) coudl not even edit files from the admin page.
Sure enough i went in to SSH to peek at the dmes...
- Sep 17, 2019So a quick update to this. I know it's been a year since my last post, but since this shows up in google now I may as well put a closing comment.
Since my last post, Volume failures have continued and i've pretty much just come to accept this to be a quirk of bad implementation on Netgear's part and that these devices are simply unreliable due to the well known failings of BTRFS as a file system in general everywhere else in the linux community. I really wish the devices used XFS, but alas; we're stuck with the poor design choices Netgear gave us - short of hacking and flashing them with something else.
In subsequent failures, i've not even bothered SSH'ing in to the devices, and used only factory provided tools (Exluding SSH which is still factory provided too btw) and used instead regular backup options as well as ReadyDR. - the file system still crashes. even at 90% which is a huge waste of otherwise perfectly usable free space.
Regular volume house keeping has always been in place, weekly scrubs, monthly defrags, etc.
Currently in the process of switching the disks over from Seagate Barracudas to WD Reds with X2 the capacity to hopefully mitigate the volume almost full self destruct issue that shouldn't exist in the first place (On any sane file system)
But if even this fails to help and i end up once again with a busted volume later down the line, my advise to the general populace at the moment would be "Don't use these devices for anything mission critical where you expect the free space to become limited. If you do, don't trust the RAID configurations and stick to single disk shares, as bugs in BTRFS regarding RAID will likely leave you with a busted volume 6 months down the line."
Until Netgear either fix the bugs in BTRFS (Unlikly) Or switch to a more mature and reliable Filesystem (Like XFS) these NAS drives are volatile at best.
ronlaws86
Oct 08, 2019Guide
Shares Only. I've not used LUNs since the last corruption case, to rule out that being a cause.
In this particular/recent case, we're talking 10% +/- (9.45TB array, only 1.45TB in use) Snapshots should've taken it to about 40% more or less, but they have all vanished.
Edit: And yes, remote NAS is a desination device only, no direct read/write operations outside of backups.
I too find it rather odd, the 104 i've had for years now at home has never had this problem, the array that's running on it has been the same volume for years and has on occasions come near to full capacity, and i use that for everythign from web server storage, VMWare LUNS and regulard drive data storage/multi media DLNA etc.
ronlaws86
Oct 08, 2019Guide
Just an update; I uploaded the above beta firmware to that device and rebooted it, the array has come back online. I was preparing to have to start from cratch but interestingly this time it seems to have come back online without doing what i'd have expected the previous versions to do and show a grey/dead/inactive volume.
- StephenBOct 08, 2019Guru - Experienced User
ronlaws86 wrote:
Just an update; I uploaded the above beta firmware to that device and rebooted it, the array has come back online. I was preparing to have to start from cratch but interestingly this time it seems to have come back online without doing what i'd have expected the previous versions to do and show a grey/dead/inactive volume.
6.10.2 is released, not beta. The released version is here: https://kb.netgear.com/000061280/ReadyNAS-OS-6-Software-Version-6-10-2
But it's interesting that the beta version mounted the array.
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