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Re: NIC teaming on RN314

antaljanssen
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NIC teaming on RN314

My RN314 runs on the latest FW and has a dual Link to a Cisco Meraki Switch MS220 capable of L3, LACP, LAG, etc.! After creating the team on 802.3ad LACP Layer 3+4 in the RN314 it states ok but after the reboot of the RN314 it changes back to 802..3ad LACP layer 2 every time again?!

Model: RN31400|ReadyNAS 300 Series 4-Bay
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StephenB
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Re: NIC teaming on RN314


@antaljanssen wrote:

In the meantime, I'm running on FW level 6.9.3 and the setting is stable but still, there is no data received over one of the two connections within the bond. One is constantly receiving 4Mbps data from 4 separate devices in total so it should be possible to use both ports with setting L3+L4, correct?


The L3+L4 setting only applies when sending.  The switch LACP setting is what matters in the NAS receive direction.  Most switches are hard-wired to use layer-2 hashing.

 

The odds of receiving streams from 4 devices on the same link is 1/8 - not that probable, but not shocking either.  Using L3+L4 doesn't change those odds - what it does is potentially allow 2 streams going to the same device to use different links.

 

You might consider using a static LAG on the switch, and set up the NAS to use round-robin.  

 

 

 

 

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StephenB
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Re: NIC teaming on RN314

"latest firmware" is 6.9.0?  Or something else?

 


@antaljanssen wrote:

After creating the team on 802.3ad LACP Layer 3+4 in the RN314 it states ok but after the reboot of the RN314 it changes back to 802..3ad LACP layer 2 every time again?!


This does sound like a bug, but I am wondering how much it actually impacts your performance. Even with a layer 3+4 hash, you still have a 50-50 chance that flows using different layer 4 ports will end up sharing the same NIC. 

 

Do you have control over the hash in the Cisco switch (I don't with my switches).

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mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: NIC teaming on RN314

We've reproduced this and filed a bug.

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antaljanssen
Aspirant

Re: NIC teaming on RN314

I have the latest OS running 6.9.0 and I have limited functionality on my Meraki MS220 Switches, mostly is done by web interface. The interface mentions that it had a trunk running on two ports.

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Tinyhorns
Apprentice

Re: NIC teaming on RN314

Networking is so broken in 6.9.0.

 

LACP is not working. 

People have reported issues with DHCP as well, and random disconnects.

 

I really wonder how this release ever made it though testing......

 

// T

 

[Sun Oct 29 21:54:49 2017] e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: None
[Sun Oct 29 21:54:49 2017] bond0: link status definitely up for interface eth0, 1000 Mbps full duplex
[Sun Oct 29 21:54:50 2017] e1000e: eth1 NIC Link is Down
[Sun Oct 29 21:54:50 2017] bond0: link status definitely down for interface eth1, disabling it
[Sun Oct 29 21:54:50 2017] bond0: first active interface up!
[Sun Oct 29 21:54:53 2017] e1000e: eth1 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: None
[Sun Oct 29 21:54:53 2017] bond0: link status definitely up for interface eth1, 1000 Mbps full duplex
[Sun Oct 29 21:55:12 2017] e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Down
[Sun Oct 29 21:55:12 2017] e1000e 0000:01:00.0 eth0: speed changed to 0 for port eth0
[Sun Oct 29 21:55:12 2017] bond0: link status definitely down for interface eth0, disabling it
[Sun Oct 29 21:55:12 2017] bond0: first active interface up!
[Sun Oct 29 21:55:13 2017] e1000e: eth1 NIC Link is Down
[Sun Oct 29 21:55:13 2017] e1000e 0000:04:00.0 eth1: speed changed to 0 for port eth1
[Sun Oct 29 21:55:13 2017] bond0: link status definitely down for interface eth1, disabling it
[Sun Oct 29 21:55:13 2017] bond0: first active interface up!
[Sun Oct 29 21:55:15 2017] e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: None
[Sun Oct 29 21:55:15 2017] bond0: link status definitely up for interface eth0, 1000 Mbps full duplex
[Sun Oct 29 21:55:15 2017] bond0: first active interface up!
[Sun Oct 29 21:55:16 2017] e1000e: eth1 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: None
[Sun Oct 29 21:55:16 2017] bond0: link status definitely up for interface eth1, 1000 Mbps full duplex
[Sun Oct 29 21:56:07 2017] e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Down
[Sun Oct 29 21:56:07 2017] e1000e 0000:01:00.0 eth0: speed changed to 0 for port eth0
[Sun Oct 29 21:56:07 2017] e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: None
[Sun Oct 29 21:56:20 2017] e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Down
[Sun Oct 29 21:56:20 2017] e1000e 0000:01:00.0 eth0: speed changed to 0 for port eth0
[Sun Oct 29 21:56:20 2017] bond0: link status definitely down for interface eth0, disabling it
[Sun Oct 29 21:56:20 2017] bond0: first active interface up!
[Sun Oct 29 21:56:23 2017] e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: None
[Sun Oct 29 21:56:23 2017] bond0: link status definitely up for interface eth0, 1000 Mbps full duplex
[Sun Oct 29 22:07:03 2017] e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Down
[Sun Oct 29 22:07:03 2017] e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: None
[Sun Oct 29 22:07:54 2017] e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Down
[Sun Oct 29 22:07:54 2017] e1000e 0000:01:00.0 eth0: speed changed to 0 for port eth0
[Sun Oct 29 22:07:54 2017] e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: None
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mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: NIC teaming on RN314


@antaljanssen wrote:

but after the reboot of the RN314 it changes back to 802..3ad LACP layer 2 every time again?!


This should be fixed in the latest hot-fix. You could try rebooting your NAS. The hot-fix should be installed within 15 minutes or so after that. If you do nothing (i.e. don't reboot your box) it'll be installed within a week.

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antaljanssen
Aspirant

Re: NIC teaming on RN314

I'm on version 6.9.0 and there is no update as the GUI informs me. Multiple reboots don't change anything. Where can I find the fix?

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antaljanssen
Aspirant

Re: NIC teaming on RN314

Where can I find such logging as shown (see dump) here in my RN314?

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DaneA
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: NIC teaming on RN314

@antaljanssen

 

As per @mdgm-ntgr, you will need to do a reboot on your NAS so that the latest hot-fix would kick-in. 

 

About the logs, kindly check the kernel or the system logs of your NAS.

 

 

Regards,

 

DaneA

NETGEAR Community Team

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evan2
NETGEAR Expert

Re: NIC teaming on RN314

@antaljanssen

hotfix only fix below  LACP issue,

After creating the team on 802.3ad LACP Layer 3+4 in the RN314 it states ok but after the reboot of the RN314 it changes back to 802..3ad LACP layer 2 every time again?!

 

For offline issue in bonding mode on RN31X, it must update to 6.9.1-T119.

You may download 6.9.1-T119 from here,  

https://www.readynas.com/download/beta/readynasos/6.9.1/ReadyNASOS-6.9.1-T119-x86_64.img

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Kimera
Guide

Re: NIC teaming on RN314


@antaljanssen wrote:

I'm on version 6.9.0 and there is no update as the GUI informs me. Multiple reboots don't change anything.


This idea, probably, is worth a read WRT the GUI not informing you about the Hot Fix patch level of your ReadyNAS OS GA version (6.9.0).

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antaljanssen
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Re: NIC teaming on RN314

In the meantime, I'm running on FW level 6.9.3 and the setting is stable but still, there is no data received over one of the two connections within the bond. One is constantly receiving 4Mbps data from 4 separate devices in total so it should be possible to use both ports with setting L3+L4, correct?

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StephenB
Guru

Re: NIC teaming on RN314


@antaljanssen wrote:

In the meantime, I'm running on FW level 6.9.3 and the setting is stable but still, there is no data received over one of the two connections within the bond. One is constantly receiving 4Mbps data from 4 separate devices in total so it should be possible to use both ports with setting L3+L4, correct?


The L3+L4 setting only applies when sending.  The switch LACP setting is what matters in the NAS receive direction.  Most switches are hard-wired to use layer-2 hashing.

 

The odds of receiving streams from 4 devices on the same link is 1/8 - not that probable, but not shocking either.  Using L3+L4 doesn't change those odds - what it does is potentially allow 2 streams going to the same device to use different links.

 

You might consider using a static LAG on the switch, and set up the NAS to use round-robin.  

 

 

 

 

Message 13 of 17
Kimera
Guide

Re: NIC teaming on RN314


@StephenBwrote: The L3+L4 setting only applies when sending.  The switch LACP setting is what matters in the NAS receive direction.  Most switches are hard-wired to use layer-2 hashing.

Isn't any hashing algorithm valid exactly only when sending (so applied to - and for - traffic leaving the ports' aggregation on device where it is configured)?

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StephenB
Guru

Re: NIC teaming on RN314


@Kimera wrote:

@StephenBwrote: The L3+L4 setting only applies when sending.  The switch LACP setting is what matters in the NAS receive direction.  Most switches are hard-wired to use layer-2 hashing.

Isn't any hashing algorithm valid exactly only when sending (so applied to - and for - traffic leaving the ports' aggregation on device where it is configured)?


The OP said "One is constantly receiving 4Mbps data from 4 separate devices in total so it should be possible to use both ports with setting L3+L4, correct?"  I pointed out that was a misunderstanding.  And I said what you said - that the setting only applies when sending.

 

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antaljanssen
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Re: NIC teaming on RN314

I forced the Switch in LAG for the two Ethernet-ports and it looks it's going to work. The Pioneer Pro with 802ad is working properly but even that one looks to work better than before so I think the automation functionality in case of LAG is not working as good as I hoped together with Netgear.

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StephenB
Guru

Re: NIC teaming on RN314


@antaljanssen wrote:

I forced the Switch in LAG for the two Ethernet-ports 


If you set up a static LAG in the switch then you should be using round-robin in the NAS (not LACP).

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