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Re: FVS336G changes WAN MAC address based on connectivity - how to disable this?
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FVS336G changes WAN MAC address based on connectivity - how to disable this?
There is a highly annoying feature of this router I would like to disable. When the router loses internet connectivity, it appears to change its WAN MAC address to a "dummy" address of "00:de:ad:xx:xx:xx" and "de:ad:de:ad:de:af". While I'm sure the designers of the device got a real kick out of that, it is causing problems with our cable modem service. See, our business cable internet connection allows up to 5 devices to be connected to the modem, and it determines the total number of connected devices by reading their ARPs. Unfortunately, the Netgear sends multiple ARPs with these dummy MAC addresses, causing those addresses to be reserved as 2 of 5 devices. Shown below is a screenshot of the modem page, showing all of the MAC addresses. Two of them come from the Netgear:
I need a way to disable this; the device is taking up a MAC, and we need it for another device. I have tried setting a static MAC address on the WAN interface, but that does not disable this behvaior.
Please advise.
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Re: FVS336G changes WAN MAC address based on connectivity - how to disable this?
That doesn't sound right and might indicate a hardware issue with the WAN port (or on ISP device), some units do this to indicate an error (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexspeak#Notable_magic_numbers).
Are you sure it's coming from the FVS? No other device connected? Can you do a packet capture from the WAN side of the FVS and verify that the source MAC address on frames coming from the FVS? You can do WAN packet captures from Monitoring -> Diagnostics.
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Re: FVS336G changes WAN MAC address based on connectivity - how to disable this?
Yes, I'm fairly sure it is coming from the FVS; those MACs only show up on the modem when the FVS is connected (and, incidentally, show up in the ARP tables of other devices connected to the switch that the modem, FVS and other devices are connected to). The MACs show up even when connected directly to the modem. I am unable to do a capture on the device, since the MACs only show up when the FVS can't pull an IP, and at that point when I try to do a packet capture the FVS complains that "The interface is down" & won't let me trace. I will try using port mirroring on a switch to see if I can capture the FVS traffic that way.
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Re: FVS336G changes WAN MAC address based on connectivity - how to disable this?
One thing I did find while browsing around the CLI: There are references to the de:ad address on the loopback interface. Here is the output of "util routing_table_ipv6":
::1/128 :: U 0 0 1 lo fc00::/128 :: U 0 0 2 lo fc00::1/128 :: U 0 0 1 lo fe80::/128 :: U 0 0 2 lo fe80::/128 :: U 0 0 2 lo fe80::/128 :: U 0 0 2 lo fe80::2de:adff:fe10:7500/128 :: U 0 0 1 lo fe80::2de:adff:fe10:7501/128 :: U 0 0 1 lo
Note the IPv6 loopback has numerous addresses, one of which has the exact same value as the MAC address listed in the modem screenshot (00:de:ad:10:75:00). As to why a loopback address on the FVS is showing up in the ARP tables of other devices..... no idea.
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Another development: with port mirroring enabled, a packat capture on the mirrored port shows the following IPv6 broadcast packets send from the FVS:
02:00:42.820407 de:ad:de:ad:de:af > 33:33:00:00:00:02, IPv6, length 70: fe80::2de:adff:fe10:7500 > ff02::2: ICMP6, router solicitation, length 16 02:00:46.820232 de:ad:de:ad:de:af > 33:33:00:00:00:02, IPv6, length 70: fe80::2de:adff:fe10:7500 > ff02::2: ICMP6, router solicitation, length 16 02:00:50.820144 de:ad:de:ad:de:af > 33:33:00:00:00:02, IPv6, length 70: fe80::2de:adff:fe10:7500 > ff02::2: ICMP6, router solicitation, length 16
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Re: FVS336G changes WAN MAC address based on connectivity - how to disable this?
Interesting finds! I'll be in office in around 10 hours and will have a look at an FVS there then. Have you been in touch with Netgear support? Do you have any case id?
I'll drop you a pm later today with request for some further information.
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Re: FVS336G changes WAN MAC address based on connectivity - how to disable this?
No, haven't contacted support yet.
Do you happen to work for Netgear?
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Re: FVS336G changes WAN MAC address based on connectivity - how to disable this?
Thanks.
And my apologies, ff02::2 is a multicast address, not broadcast.
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Re: FVS336G changes WAN MAC address based on connectivity - how to disable this?
I just want to make an update in this thread in case anyone else has the same issue.
This has been confirmed to be a firmware issue.
The DE:AD MAC addresses will only go out the WAN during the bootup process so the workaround for now is to;
*Unplug WAN cable
*Boot up unit fully
*Plug in WAN cable
Case number is 26945382 (for any Netgear support staff running in to this thread 🙂 )
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Re: FVS336G changes WAN MAC address based on connectivity - how to disable this?
The timing of this is amazing. I just wanted to add that I have also run into this issue this past week.
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Re: FVS336G changes WAN MAC address based on connectivity - how to disable this?
Hey Calpert,
Ah, great to see you found this thread 🙂 The workaround in my previous post should work for now until a firmware fix is released.