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Aspirant
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WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

Noticed there is a new router (WNDR37AV) listed on the Netgear product page. I truly hope this isn't a case of the WNDR3700 issues have been abandoned and the WNDR37AV is the hardware fix required.
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Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

DeanoPC wrote:
Noticed there is a new router (WNDR37AV) listed on the Netgear product page. I truly hope this isn't a case of the WNDR3700 issues have been abandoned and the WNDR37AV is the hardware fix required.


Great! They introduce a new router instead of fixing the long lived bugs of their existing top-of-the-line model. Really great! :mad:
Luminary
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Registered: ‎2010-06-05

Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

That may be exactly what they are doing. I am in the window of opportunity to return mine to Amazon, and that is what I am going to do. I purchased what I thought was the latest and greatest, and I am tired of waiting for firmware that may never come. Back goes the 3700, and I will purchase the 37 when it hits Amazon. Let Netgear eat these buggy routers, and not the end user. I see no other reason Netgear would come out with a new router with specs not much different than the 3700, unless they have hardware issues.
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Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

From the specs they seem identical.. I think its more marketing than a really new device...

Its advertized as an Wireless router for Video and Gaming and for those who dont know that the WNDR3700 is the same are choosing more the WNDR37AV.
Luminary
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Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

ronson wrote:
From the specs they seem identical.. I think its more marketing than a really new device...

Its advertized as an Wireless router for Video and Gaming and for those who dont know that the WNDR3700 is the same are choosing more the WNDR37AV.


Maybe, maybe not! If you look at the listing on Amazon, Netgear promotes the 3700 as a AV product, with much the same feature and benefits being promoted in the 37av. There is a very good chance that the 3700 has hardware issues that firmware will not fix. The time factor of Netgear getting firmware out to fix known issues, makes me more than suspicious. Also, the Guest Network issue plagues current 3700's, but earlier production runs seem to be ok. I do not want to take the risk of owning a defective product. Now lets see if Netgear discontinues the 3700, that will tell the real story....
Luminary
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Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

ronson wrote:
From the specs they seem identical.. I think its more marketing than a really new device...

Its advertized as an Wireless router for Video and Gaming and for those who dont know that the WNDR3700 is the same are choosing more the WNDR37AV.


It would just be cheaper and easier to change there marking of the current item! It would not be hard to add "Gaming Router" to there product description. I don't buy it as marketing only....
Aspirant
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Registered: ‎2010-06-04

Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

hmm. Any idea about the retail availability? I am pissed off with the guest network and media server issues.
Aspirant
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Registered: ‎2010-06-04

Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

Very interesting! Treacherous NETGEAR. But Lucky I am! I am still under 30 days return period of Amazon and upgrading my existing router is not that necessary for me. And FYI, you may order your WNDR37AV from the following link (google gave it to me. I would suggest to wait for Amazon):

http://www.cometsupply.com/pm/NGRWNDR37AV100NAS/r/gg/
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Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

NETGEAR needs to say if there are some Hardware issues with the WNDR3700 or not and why are they bringing out an almost identical product to the WNDR3700.

BTW. What does this mean? It say on the Specifications under Package Contents:



Wireless Router for Video and Gaming (WNDR37AV) / N600 Wireless Dual-Band Gigabit Router (WNDR3700)



What does this mean? Is the WNDR3700 also in the package? I dont get it! Smiley Very Happy
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Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

BTW. With marketing they can sold the same device for much higher price.

As a Gamer If you have to choose between "WNDR37AV Wireless Router for Video and Gaming" 130$ and WNDR3700 Wireless Dual-Band Gigabit Router for ca 100$ you would choose WNDR37AV if you dont know its the same device only with another name and "better" capabilities for gaming!


There is a difference regarding the description of the Standards. On the WNDR3700 Page it says:

WNDR3700 Standards:
IEEE 802.11n version 2.0


and on the WNDR37AV page:

WNDR37AV Standards:
IEEE 802.11 b/g/n 2.4 GHz
IEEE 802.11 a/n 5.0 GHz


Is htere only a difference in the description or really a difference regarding the standards?

Greetings
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Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

It has the same hardware specs, same CPU, same memory capacity, same design and too bad, same limited internal antenna array. So, why pay again for something you have already paid for? Manufactures have to understand that customers want supported products, not new "one-of-the-same" models. :mad:
Aspirant
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Registered: ‎2010-04-03

Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

I heard Netgear is changing the names for their products. And that is probably the reason why we are seeing a different product name with an almost the same specs.

[COLOR=#04056c][FONT=Times New Roman]We are changing the names and packaging on most of our products, however, logistically we are not able to change the contents (name on the CD/IG/UM etc) at the same time and will roll this change in after the outside packaging change. In other words, the name on the outside of the package will be different than the name of the product on the inside for a while.

[COLOR=#04056c][FONT=Times New Roman]RangeMax Dual Band Wireless-N Gigabit Router is the original name of the product and now been change to N600 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router.

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we're not yet sure if WNDR37AV is just the new name but we'll find out...[/FONT][/COLOR]
"I make no claims to be an expert; I have got things wrong in the past and will again in the future." ~Mars Mug, Netgear Forums
Aspirant
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Registered: ‎2010-06-05

Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

It does the same as Linksys did.
Aspirant
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Registered: ‎2008-04-12

Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

Well, these two routers are diffrent. The new name for WNDR3700 is N600 as per the latest updates.

Regards

Anand
Aspirant
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Registered: ‎2010-06-09

Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

The aggreed to standard allows for 4 transmit antennas, 4 receive antennas and 4 data spatial streams. This allows for a maximum data rate of up to 600 Mbits/s. In Netgear's Certificate to the wi-fi alliance ( certification id: WFA7644 ) the WNDR3700v1 is specified as 2 concurent maximum spatial streams. That would leave room for a new product with 4 data spatial streams and a maximum data rate of up to 600 Mbits/s. Notice the new name ! Regards OldTech
Aspirant
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Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

:mad: Now I care about how much WNDR37AV will be priced.
!!!!!! :mad: they marked WNDR3700 for $169.99

What about N600 and N300, there could be the same hardware and then Netgear firmware locks the N300 jumping to N600?:confused:
Luminary
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Registered: ‎2010-06-05

Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

Try this link: Click radio box for "Display End of Life Products":

http://kb.netgear.com/app/products/list/p3/164
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Registered: ‎2010-05-11

Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

I think the WNDR3700 is listed there because of its current Name. They are changing it and so the WNDR3700 will not be sold or supported by its current name.
Aspirant
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Registered: ‎2010-06-04

Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

No, WNDR37AV is not a new name of WNDR3700 (credit goes to some other original author who noticed many discrepancy of specification). First of all, WNDR3700 is N300, where the author claimed that a max 2 spatial stream is supported, while WNDR37AV support 4. Second, they will have different motherboard. And third, WNDR3700 is N300 while WNDR37AV is N600. I don't know what N300 and N600 mean, but the original author claimed that the first will be firmware restricted to 300Mbps, while the new one would enable 600Mbps. Don't know whether they are true. But it seems that author knows quite much.
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Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

I cannot understand that a product which isnt really a year on the market is going to be an end of life product. Does this mean no Firmware Updates anymore??

And you said that the difference between these routers are that the WNDR3700 is limited to 300mbit WiFi thich the WNDR37AV isnt.
SO it would be posible to "delimit" it so it can get 600mbit?

I dont like Netgears policy , I bought it at beginning of m and now I am reading from netgear that I have a new Router which is an End of Live product...
Aspirant
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Registered: ‎2010-06-04

Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

There is a latest firmware 1.0.4.68 from product support page. You may want to try that. May be you don't want latest and greatest always. Otherwise wait for WNDR37AV and try to return WNDR3700. Good luck.
Aspirant
Posts: 58
Registered: ‎2009-10-27

Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

according to openwrt the wndr3700 has two atheros ar9280 wireless cards. one is BGN-wifi and the other is AN-wifi and both have 2x2 MIMO. If this is correct it wouldn't be possible to get "N600" with the wndr3700. The only way would be using the 2.4 and the 5 ghz networks at the same time with one client and there is no software or wireless adapter which can do this.

It would be nice if netgear could give us some more information about the wndr3700
Aspirant
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Registered: ‎2010-05-19

Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

NightOwl326 wrote:
Try this link: Click radio box for "Display End of Life Products": http://kb.netgear.com/app/products/list/p3/164
Actually, whenever you click on the box for "Display End of Life Products", it would be showing all the devices for that category. Not just the devices that are still being sold but the EOL devices as well. Also, if you go to that page normaly and do not click on the box, the WNDR3700 is still in the list.
Aspirant
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Registered: ‎2010-06-04

Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

Anyone has any idea on the ETA of WNDR37AV?
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Re: WNDR37AV vs WNDR3700

foyzur wrote:
Anyone has any idea on the ETA of WNDR37AV?


Around June.25,2010 I think.
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