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Kringle
Tutor
Jul 03, 2022

Nighthawk M6 Pro - Drops Internet After 1-2 hours

I just setup a new M6 Pro on AT&T with 5G.  I have full bars and very fast service so it’s not signal or carrier issues. I’ve done line refreshes and run AT&T’s tests and all come back saying everything works on their end.

 

The M6 says it’s connected to the internet, but it’s not - it shows it in the network map as connected and the device appears to be operating normally according to status and moving through the settings, yet no devices can get on the internet.

 

Now for troubleshooting I did the following:

  1. I moved to entirely different cell tower location with 5 bars 5G, still disconnects
  2. I Factory Reset, removed SIM, reset again. Making sure it’s current, did firmware check and I’m on the latest. Still disconnects from internet.
  3. I disabled both ethernet & wifi sleep functions (set to sleep never) and made the power settings max so there’s no slow down. Still disconnects from Internet.
  4. I connected a laptop to Ethernet, still disconnects
  5. I connected a laptop to USB, still disconnects
  6. I connected a EX-20 Extender via ethernet, devices connected wirelessly to the extender get disconnected and the EX-20 reports offline
  7. I brought the M6 to my house and did wifi off boarding, and it still disconnects.  It shows in the network make that it’s connected via off boarding, yet no data is passing through the M6 and all connected devices report offline.
  8. I tried ethernet off boarding to my ORBI RBR850, still disconnects.
  9. If I connect a device after a few hours when it’s has disconnected from the internet, the new device cannot access internet, so the M6 is still disconnected even though it let me join a new device via wifi

There is clearly something wrong with the firmware that’s causing internet to SHOW connected, but no devices can reach the internet. In Network Map on the mobile app or on the M6 screen it shows everything is working just fine.

 

If I reboot the M6 (from the app) it comes back, connects and works for 1-2 hours, then disconnects. If I change a setting that requires the wifi to recycle then when it comes back it’s working for a brief period of time.

 

This device is going in a remote location and I need to it be reliable.  Has anyone had any luck keeping this thing running for more than a few hours?  I am about to return it and go in a different direction because it’s simply not reliable.

 

When it is connected it works perfectly, speeds are screaming fast, connection is stable and ping and diagnostics are all excellent.

 

86 Replies

  • Any updates on this?  I'm seeing the same thing and it is super annoying.  

    • Mambam's avatar
      Mambam
      Aspirant

      I have a remote location where I use the M6 Pro for a static internet access. 4 bars off att tower and internet drops randomly… 

      • Ptgunder's avatar
        Ptgunder
        Aspirant
        I am having a similar internet random dropping issue. I get 4 bars and good speeds but it randomly disconnects. Is there a fix? I am in my 14 day trial and this is going back if I can’t resolve.
  • JohnPeng's avatar
    JohnPeng
    NETGEAR Expert

    Kringle wrote:

    I just setup a new M6 Pro on AT&T with 5G.  I have full bars and very fast service so it’s not signal or carrier issues. I’ve done line refreshes and run AT&T’s tests and all come back saying everything works on their end.

     

    The M6 says it’s connected to the internet, but it’s not - it shows it in the network map as connected and the device appears to be operating normally according to status and moving through the settings, yet no devices can get on the internet.

     

    Now for troubleshooting I did the following:

    1. I moved to entirely different cell tower location with 5 bars 5G, still disconnects
    2. I Factory Reset, removed SIM, reset again. Making sure it’s current, did firmware check and I’m on the latest. Still disconnects from internet.
    3. I disabled both ethernet & wifi sleep functions (set to sleep never) and made the power settings max so there’s no slow down. Still disconnects from Internet.
    4. I connected a laptop to Ethernet, still disconnects
    5. I connected a laptop to USB, still disconnects
    6. I connected a EX-20 Extender via ethernet, devices connected wirelessly to the extender get disconnected and the EX-20 reports offline
    7. I brought the M6 to my house and did wifi off boarding, and it still disconnects.  It shows in the network make that it’s connected via off boarding, yet no data is passing through the M6 and all connected devices report offline.
    8. I tried ethernet off boarding to my ORBI RBR850, still disconnects.
    9. If I connect a device after a few hours when it’s has disconnected from the internet, the new device cannot access internet, so the M6 is still disconnected even though it let me join a new device via wifi

    There is clearly something wrong with the firmware that’s causing internet to SHOW connected, but no devices can reach the internet. In Network Map on the mobile app or on the M6 screen it shows everything is working just fine.

     

    If I reboot the M6 (from the app) it comes back, connects and works for 1-2 hours, then disconnects. If I change a setting that requires the wifi to recycle then when it comes back it’s working for a brief period of time.

     

    This device is going in a remote location and I need to it be reliable.  Has anyone had any luck keeping this thing running for more than a few hours?  I am about to return it and go in a different direction because it’s simply not reliable.

     

    When it is connected it works perfectly, speeds are screaming fast, connection is stable and ping and diagnostics are all excellent.

     


    When the issue happens, could you please try to PING a know IP address to check whether it is working. 

     

    Please also help to capture a model.json file to confirm the WWAN side connection is still up running. Please send the log using PM.

    - Logon to the webui (http://192.168.1.1 ) as an administrator
    - Navigate to URL http://192.168.1.1/model.json via the same browser window
    - Capture the results (by selecting all + copy) and send it back

     

    Please also advise the FW version on your device.

     

    Thanks

    John

     

    • Cohenhouse's avatar
      Cohenhouse
      Tutor

      I am experiencing the EXACT same issue with the EXACT same device. Was there ever any resolution to this?

       

      Device reads that it is connected with 3 bars of 5g, but every device says cannot connect to the internet, or have a download speed of .5mb. I restart the device and I'm back to 20mb download for a few hours. Then suddenly back to .5mb. I have to restart it 5 times a day.

      • JohnPeng's avatar
        JohnPeng
        NETGEAR Expert

        Cohenhouse wrote:

        I am experiencing the EXACT same issue with the EXACT same device. Was there ever any resolution to this?

         

        Device reads that it is connected with 3 bars of 5g, but every device says cannot connect to the internet, or have a download speed of .5mb. I restart the device and I'm back to 20mb download for a few hours. Then suddenly back to .5mb. I have to restart it 5 times a day.


        If you are AT&T customer with AT&T branded device, please upgrade to the latest release and let me know if you still see the issue.

        Thanks

      • JohnPeng's avatar
        JohnPeng
        NETGEAR Expert

        JohnFrampton wrote:

        JohnPeng I am experiencing this same issue. May I send you the json report?


        Yes. Please send the model.json file to me by PM.

         

        Thanks

         

  • We have this same problem.  Is there a resolution to this problem?

    • JohnFrampton's avatar
      JohnFrampton
      Aspirant

      Sadly it seems this product has a few bugs that need to be fixed! JohnPeng any solutions to these issues? my unit won't allow me to run without a battery,

      • JohnPeng's avatar
        JohnPeng
        NETGEAR Expert

        JohnFrampton wrote:

        Sadly it seems this product has a few bugs that need to be fixed! JohnPeng any solutions to these issues? my unit won't allow me to run without a battery,


        Could you please let me know your phone number? I can give you a call tomorrow to discuss the details.

         

        Have you had your device replaced before? If not, I can send your a replacement and you can ship yours with all the accessories back to me for further checking.

         

        Sorry for the inconvenience.

         

        Thanks

        John

  • Has there been any traction on this issue at all for those who have submitted a JSON?  It works for a little bit but inevitably has disconnected every single time I have used this to livestream video. I never know when it will happen, I just know for sure it WILL disconnect every single time I livestream and requires a reboot which feels like it takes forever. I purchased this to become more reliable vs just using my Android phone as a hotspot, but have since switched back to my phone for more reliability.   

    So frustrating. Nobody has any answers.

    • stevenprice1956's avatar
      stevenprice1956
      Initiate
      Not to speak for netgear but yes new beta firmware fixes the problems. I was told it was sent to att and once approved by them it would be out
  • Hi John,

     

    I'm having the same issue with MR6450 - intermittent disconnects after 2-3 hours or more sometimes. It happens with or whiteout battery. I’am using original power supply and cable.

     

    Hardware : 1.0

    Build Date : 2023/02/04

    Package Name : MR6450-100EUS_NTGX65_12.01.05.00_Generic_01.07

    Firmware : NTGX65_12.01.05.00

    Modem Firmware : MPSS.DE.2.0-00989-OLYMPIC_GENALL_PACK-1.21566.3.24337.3

    Web App Version : MR6500-GENERIC_05.00.71.01

     

    Is there en new firmware or what can I do to solve this issue ? I’am currently in Spain using a MASMOVIL SIM Card. I will return to Switzerland in 5 days - there I will use a Sunrise SIM Card.

     

    Thank you in advance for your help.

     

    Daniel

    • JohnPeng's avatar
      JohnPeng
      NETGEAR Expert

      danyc2 wrote:

      Hi John,

       

      I'm having the same issue with MR6450 - intermittent disconnects after 2-3 hours or more sometimes. It happens with or whiteout battery. I’am using original power supply and cable.

       

      Hardware : 1.0

      Build Date : 2023/02/04

      Package Name : MR6450-100EUS_NTGX65_12.01.05.00_Generic_01.07

      Firmware : NTGX65_12.01.05.00

      Modem Firmware : MPSS.DE.2.0-00989-OLYMPIC_GENALL_PACK-1.21566.3.24337.3

      Web App Version : MR6500-GENERIC_05.00.71.01

       

      Is there en new firmware or what can I do to solve this issue ? I’am currently in Spain using a MASMOVIL SIM Card. I will return to Switzerland in 5 days - there I will use a Sunrise SIM Card.

       

      Thank you in advance for your help.

       

      Daniel


      Please send me the model.json file with your community ID. I will follow up with you by email.

      - Logon to the webui (http://192.168.1.1 ) as an administrator
      - Navigate to URL http://192.168.1.1/model.json via the same browser window
      - Capture the results (by selecting all + copy) and send it back

       

      Thanks

      John

  • From my observations Couple questions...

     

    1. Those that are experiencing some issues, May be a silly one but... Have you logged into http://192.168.1.1/index.html and checked for the updates ? I'm not sure of the actual protocol used for this device, but with other devices I use (firmware updates are a bit different than just a software update), it has to be applied manually. login to the above link, got to Settings tab>Administration>Firmware Update.

     

    2. Is your device running on an ATT sim or other service? If running on other services with and unlocked device, you will never get the updates if not using an ATT sim card. Prepaid ATT SIMs may also act up.

     

    3. SIM provisioning can also cause issues. Have you checked with carrier(s) to make sure IMEI etc. is correct?

     

    4. Device could be faulty as probably last resort... But it does happen.

     

    For those with high congestion, ATT now offers a priority "service" for $7.00 more on ya bill, May be an option or help.

     

    Just some thoughts...

     

    Regards

    • Diskman's avatar
      Diskman
      Tutor

      To answer your questions as best I can.

       

      If you don't have firmware NTGX65_12.01.48.01 or later you will or could have many issues. If you do most of these problems will stop being issues. Mostly dropping internet and over heating issues a resolved in this firmware.

       

      1. Yes I use the android mobile app to look at built in software, also I use 192.168.1.1.

      2 Yes I am using AT&T Sim.

      3. Yes depending on Sim Programing you can be limited to 4G LTE or 5G and 4G LTE. I now have latter which uses 5G, 5GPlus, 4G LTE.

       

      4. Rare but yes some devices can  or could be faulty.

       

      I have noticed with 5G the congestion issue is much less of a problem.

       

       

  • I have the same issue
    Nighthawk M6 Pro not fit for purpose
    • Diskman's avatar
      Diskman
      Tutor

      The NightHawk M6 Pro Is a very powerful and great Hotspot, but it does need to have the correct Sim Card and firmware update. Almost all come with older firmware and if you can not get it updated then the unit can be difficult to use. Not sure where you live but I would be willing help if possible.