D7000 in Access Point Mode

[paulus22]

I have been using my   D7000 (192.168.0.1) in the study (middle of the house), connected via its WAN port to my ISP  router (192.168.1.1) in the loft. The problem I have been having is Double NAT - screamed my gaming son! I am contemplating switching the D7000 into straightforward AP mode, but I have a couple of devices  Ethernet connected to the D7000.

My question is when in AP mode are the Ethernet ports still serviced or is it just the wifi?

Thanks, paulus.

[antinode]

> Model: D7000|Nighthawk AC1900 VDSL/ADSL Modem Router

   Is that accurate?  Not a D7000v2?  Look for "Model" on the product
label.  Firmware version?

> [...] when in AP mode are the Ethernet ports still serviced or is it
> just the wifi?

   The LAN Ethernet ports should work, too.

[paulus22]

No, it is a D7000; firmware   V1.0.1.78_1.0.1.

Thanks for your answer - will give it a try in the morning.

Additional question - can I continue using the USB port for shared storage?

Many thanks.

[antinode]

> [...] can I continue using the USB port for shared storage?

   That should work, too.

   Here's a list of features which are disabled in a router-as-WAP:

      https://kb.netgear.com/26765

[paulus22]

EXcellent, converted my setup with D7000 working in AP mode, everything fine EXCEPT I can no longer log into the D7000 via my Ethernet attached PC. The wifi Genie works but I normally login via PC for any changes but nothing works. My ISP router seems to have give the AP an address of 192.168.0.19 - but that refuses connection. Is it possible to get in via Ethernet, or am I now limited to what the Genie can do?

[paulus22]

CORRECTION:

D7000's ip address is not 192.168.0.19 - I have no idea what it is and the TT router doesn't give a clue either.

[paulus22]

Furthermore, I have lost access to Readyshare (my USB connected hard drive) . Is it possible to get it back, and how?

[antinode]

> [...] I can no longer log into the D7000 via my Ethernet attached PC.
> [...]

   "can no longer" is not a useful problem description.  It does not say
what you did.  It does not say what happened when you did it.  As usual,
showing actual actions (commands) with their actual results (error
messages, LED indicators, ...) can be more helpful than vague
descriptions or interpretations.

   That "Ethernet attached PC" is connected to what?

> [...] The wifi Genie works [...]

   What does "The wifi Genie" mean to you?  Some app on some device, or
what?

> [...] My ISP router seems to have give the AP an address of
> 192.168.0.19 - but that refuses connection.

   "seems"?  "refuses"?  See "not a useful problem description [...]",
above.

> D7000's ip address is not 192.168.0.19 - I have no idea what it is and
> the TT router doesn't give a clue either.

   If you took the default option ("Get dynamically from existing
router"), then the D7000-as-WAP should get its (LAN) IP address from
your (unspecified) "the TT router", which should show it in some kind of
"Attached Devices" or "DHCP Clients" or similar report.  If you'd like
it to have some reliable/fixed address, then you should be able to
reserve an address for it in (the DHCP server in) that main router.

> [...] I have lost access to Readyshare (my USB connected hard drive) .
> [...]

   With my weak psychic powers, I have no idea how you were/are
accessing that storage.  If whatever you're doing depends on the IP
address of the D7000(-as-WAP), then it might help if everyone knew what
that address is.

[paulus22]

USB storage issue resolved (just using a different name now)

Cannot connect to the D7000 - now in AP mode.

From my Win10 PC connected to the D7000 via ethernet type "routerlogin.net" and get  "You may not be connected to your Router’s WiFi network. To access routerlogin.com, your device must be connected to your Router’s WiFi network". Interrogating the TalkTalk router (DG 8041W) I cannot find the D7000, but I see it has reserved a DHCP address for a mac which is ALMOST the D7000 - so I assume it is.  That address is 192.168.1.10 (note the different subnet "1"). I have tried from my  WIN10 PC, ethernet connected to the D7000 but cannot log in "took too long to respond.

[antinode]

> [...] "You may not be connected to your Router's WiFi network. [...]

   Welcome to what may be the worst error message in the world.  For an
explanation, try:

      https://community.netgear.com/t5/x/x/m-p/1365830

   Briefly, the idea is that "[www.]routerlogin.net" (or ".com") should
point to your own router, but that's true only if you use your own
router for DNS name resolution.  (Or, if the Netgear router can
intercept your DNS queries.)  Regardless, you should be able to get to
the thing using its IP address, if you can determine (or guess) that.

> [...] I cannot find the D7000, but I see it has reserved a DHCP
> address for a mac which is ALMOST the D7000 - so I assume it is. [...]

   "reserved"?  Did you _reserve_ an IP address for that MAC address, or
are you seeing some (potentially variable) DHCP pool address which your
main router chose?

   A device like the D7000 does not have _a_ MAC address; each network
interface on the D7000 has its own MAC address.  For example, on mine,
the LAN MAC address is "50:6A:03:E9:AE:86", and the WAN/Internet MAC
address is "50:6A:03:E9:AE:87".  (ADVANCED > ADVANCED Home : Router
Information : MAC Address, ADVANCED > ADVANCED Home : Internet Port :
MAC Address)  When configured as a WAP, I'd expect the LAN MAC address
to be the one of interest.

> [...] That address is 192.168.1.10 (note the different subnet "1").
> [...]

   I would not expect the D7000-as-WAP to get an IP address from a
different subnet unless you specified it explicitly ("Enable fixed IP
settings on this device (not recommended)").  What's the IP address of
your computer?  Of your main router (LAN)?

   Not knowing what happened, I'd try a settings reset on the D7000.
Then, when it's back in router mode, connect only one computer to it,
get past its automatic configuration "wizard", and "Enable Access Point
Mode" again.  Then connect it to the main router, as described in the
D7000 User Manual, and see what happens.

[paulus22]

Thanks for bearing with me on this:

My main (TalkTalk) router  is 192.168.0.1

TalkTalk router specifies DJCP range of 100-200

My phone is 192.168.0.109

My PC is (fixed) 192.168.0.2

I took the recommended "automatic" ip settings  when switching to AP

The TalkTalk router in its settings has a  "DHCP Static IP Configuration" with a single entry for a mac which looks like  the D7000 and an address of 192.168.1.10.  This has been set automatically, but it does look like I can change it. I am loathe to do a reset on the D7000 since all my wifi configs are set up  - and everything is working except my access to the D7000. I will first check with TT whether I should manually change the IP assignment for the D7000 onto subnet "0" which might then work.

paulus22

[antinode]

> I took the recommended "automatic" ip settings when switching to AP

   Then the D7000-as-WAP should get a dynamic address from (the DHCP
server in) your main router, and that should be on the same subnet as
everything else.

   So, either it's defective, or else there's another DHCP server
operating on your network, and the D7000-as-WAP is getting its (goofy)
address from that.  Or your (unspecified) "TalkTalk router" has an
excessively flexible DHCP server, and it's issuing the goofy address.

> The TalkTalk router in its settings has a "DHCP Static IP
> Configuration" with a single entry for a mac which looks like the D7000
> and an address of 192.168.1.10. This has been set automatically, but it
> does look like I can change it. [...]

   You can see it better than I can.  I don't know about the
"automatically" part, but if you can change it, then it's probably worth
a try.  Pick some other ex-pool address (outside of ".100" - ".200").
From the right subnet.

   In my universe, "static" and "dynamic" are disjoint categories, so
that "DHCP Static" is an oxymoron.  Netgear, at least, refers to
"reserved [dynamic] addresses".

   Another alternative would be to specify a static (LAN) address on the
D7000-as-WAP ("Enable fixed IP settings on this device (not
recommended)", or, I believe, in the ADVANCED > ADVANCED Setup > LAN
Setup stuff).  Again, an ex-pool address, of course.