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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade RN314 NAS
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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade RN314 NAS
@claynz wrote:
Any ideas why it is showing up as RAID1 when both drives are JBOD?
Should I reset the NAS unit and start again? I have everything backed up to other locations.
Can you download the log zip, and then copy/paste mdstat.log here?
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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade RN314 NAS
Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid10] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4]
md125 : active raid1 sda3[0]
11714034624 blocks super 1.2 [1/1] [U]
md1 : active raid10 sdd2[3] sdc2[2] sdb2[1] sda2[0]
1044480 blocks super 1.2 512K chunks 2 near-copies [4/4] [UUUU]
md126 : active raid0 sdc3[0] sdd3[1]
19523172224 blocks super 1.2 64k chunks
md127 : active raid1 sdb3[0]
9761586112 blocks super 1.2 [1/1] [U]
md0 : active raid1 sdb1[0] sdd1[4] sdc1[2] sda1[5]
4190208 blocks super 1.2 [4/4] [UUUU]
unused devices: <none>
/dev/md/0:
Version : 1.2
Creation Time : Sat Jan 30 18:23:41 2021
Raid Level : raid1
Array Size : 4190208 (4.00 GiB 4.29 GB)
Used Dev Size : 4190208 (4.00 GiB 4.29 GB)
Raid Devices : 4
Total Devices : 4
Persistence : Superblock is persistent
Update Time : Thu Nov 9 04:31:58 2023
State : clean
Active Devices : 4
Working Devices : 4
Failed Devices : 0
Spare Devices : 0
Consistency Policy : unknown
Name : 7c6ea9d0:0 (local to host 7c6ea9d0)
UUID : 89af37e9:d796771e:2982bf15:a0bd7cbb
Events : 12309
Number Major Minor RaidDevice State
0 8 17 0 active sync /dev/sdb1
5 8 1 1 active sync /dev/sda1
2 8 33 2 active sync /dev/sdc1
4 8 49 3 active sync /dev/sdd1
/dev/md/MEDIA0-0:
Version : 1.2
Creation Time : Tue Nov 7 17:26:44 2023
Raid Level : raid1
Array Size : 11714034624 (11171.37 GiB 11995.17 GB)
Used Dev Size : 11714034624 (11171.37 GiB 11995.17 GB)
Raid Devices : 1
Total Devices : 1
Persistence : Superblock is persistent
Update Time : Wed Nov 8 02:36:18 2023
State : clean
Active Devices : 1
Working Devices : 1
Failed Devices : 0
Spare Devices : 0
Consistency Policy : unknown
Name : 7c6ea9d0:MEDIA0-0 (local to host 7c6ea9d0)
UUID : e3a06696:ef165261:dd66b540:6b7c17d9
Events : 3
Number Major Minor RaidDevice State
0 8 3 0 active sync /dev/sda3
/dev/md/MEDIA1-0:
Version : 1.2
Creation Time : Tue Nov 7 17:14:35 2023
Raid Level : raid1
Array Size : 9761586112 (9309.37 GiB 9995.86 GB)
Used Dev Size : 9761586112 (9309.37 GiB 9995.86 GB)
Raid Devices : 1
Total Devices : 1
Persistence : Superblock is persistent
Update Time : Wed Nov 8 14:39:32 2023
State : clean
Active Devices : 1
Working Devices : 1
Failed Devices : 0
Spare Devices : 0
Consistency Policy : unknown
Name : 7c6ea9d0:MEDIA1-0 (local to host 7c6ea9d0)
UUID : 4e3578a2:76dbe9d5:9675befb:f0628190
Events : 2
Number Major Minor RaidDevice State
0 8 19 0 active sync /dev/sdb3
/dev/md/MEDIA2-0:
Version : 1.2
Creation Time : Sat Nov 4 21:44:41 2023
Raid Level : raid0
Array Size : 19523172224 (18618.75 GiB 19991.73 GB)
Raid Devices : 2
Total Devices : 2
Persistence : Superblock is persistent
Update Time : Sat Nov 4 21:44:41 2023
State : clean
Active Devices : 2
Working Devices : 2
Failed Devices : 0
Spare Devices : 0
Chunk Size : 64K
Consistency Policy : unknown
Name : 7c6ea9d0:MEDIA2-0 (local to host 7c6ea9d0)
UUID : c7b0da43:bbcee720:5535bbdd:ba8762e4
Events : 0
Number Major Minor RaidDevice State
0 8 35 0 active sync /dev/sdc3
1 8 51 1 active sync /dev/sdd3
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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade RN314 NAS
In a ReadyNAS, a "JBOD" drive is actually a single-drive RAID1 that simply doesn't report it's degraded. I assume Netgear does it that way to make conversion to real RAID1 possible.
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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade RN314 NAS
Makes perfect sense from the KISS view 8-)
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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade RN314 NAS
@Sandshark wrote:
In a ReadyNAS, a "JBOD" drive is actually a single-drive RAID1 that simply doesn't report it's degraded. I assume Netgear does it that way to make conversion to real RAID1 possible.
True, but my RN202 has two JBOD volumes, and they are reported as JBOD in the web ui - not RAID-1.
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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade RN314 NAS
@StephenB wrote:
@Sandshark wrote:
In a ReadyNAS, a "JBOD" drive is actually a single-drive RAID1 that simply doesn't report it's degraded. I assume Netgear does it that way to make conversion to real RAID1 possible.
True, but my RN202 has two JBOD volumes, and they are reported as JBOD in the web ui - not RAID-1.
Yes, single drive RAID1 is used for JBOD only on Intel x64 OS6 8-) Or on devices with more than two storage slots?
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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade RN314 NAS
So in other words everything is fine at my end? no need to reset the NAS and start reconfiguration?
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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade RN314 NAS
@claynz wrote:
So in other words everything is fine at my end?
I don't know, as my RN202 says JBOD, and not RAID-1 for the two single-drive volumes.
As I requested before - please download the log zip, and copy/paste mdstat.log in a reply here.
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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade RN314 NAS
I have already done this before
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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade RN314 NAS
Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid10] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4]
md125 : active raid1 sda3[0]
11714034624 blocks super 1.2 [1/1] [U]
md1 : active raid10 sdd2[3] sdc2[2] sdb2[1] sda2[0]
1044480 blocks super 1.2 512K chunks 2 near-copies [4/4] [UUUU]
md126 : active raid0 sdc3[0] sdd3[1]
19523172224 blocks super 1.2 64k chunks
md127 : active raid1 sdb3[0]
9761586112 blocks super 1.2 [1/1] [U]
md0 : active raid1 sdb1[0] sdd1[4] sdc1[2] sda1[5]
4190208 blocks super 1.2 [4/4] [UUUU]
unused devices: <none>
/dev/md/0:
Version : 1.2
Creation Time : Sat Jan 30 18:23:41 2021
Raid Level : raid1
Array Size : 4190208 (4.00 GiB 4.29 GB)
Used Dev Size : 4190208 (4.00 GiB 4.29 GB)
Raid Devices : 4
Total Devices : 4
Persistence : Superblock is persistent
Update Time : Thu Nov 9 04:31:58 2023
State : clean
Active Devices : 4
Working Devices : 4
Failed Devices : 0
Spare Devices : 0
Consistency Policy : unknown
Name : 7c6ea9d0:0 (local to host 7c6ea9d0)
UUID : 89af37e9:d796771e:2982bf15:a0bd7cbb
Events : 12309
Number Major Minor RaidDevice State
0 8 17 0 active sync /dev/sdb1
5 8 1 1 active sync /dev/sda1
2 8 33 2 active sync /dev/sdc1
4 8 49 3 active sync /dev/sdd1
/dev/md/MEDIA0-0:
Version : 1.2
Creation Time : Tue Nov 7 17:26:44 2023
Raid Level : raid1
Array Size : 11714034624 (11171.37 GiB 11995.17 GB)
Used Dev Size : 11714034624 (11171.37 GiB 11995.17 GB)
Raid Devices : 1
Total Devices : 1
Persistence : Superblock is persistent
Update Time : Wed Nov 8 02:36:18 2023
State : clean
Active Devices : 1
Working Devices : 1
Failed Devices : 0
Spare Devices : 0
Consistency Policy : unknown
Name : 7c6ea9d0:MEDIA0-0 (local to host 7c6ea9d0)
UUID : e3a06696:ef165261:dd66b540:6b7c17d9
Events : 3
Number Major Minor RaidDevice State
0 8 3 0 active sync /dev/sda3
/dev/md/MEDIA1-0:
Version : 1.2
Creation Time : Tue Nov 7 17:14:35 2023
Raid Level : raid1
Array Size : 9761586112 (9309.37 GiB 9995.86 GB)
Used Dev Size : 9761586112 (9309.37 GiB 9995.86 GB)
Raid Devices : 1
Total Devices : 1
Persistence : Superblock is persistent
Update Time : Wed Nov 8 14:39:32 2023
State : clean
Active Devices : 1
Working Devices : 1
Failed Devices : 0
Spare Devices : 0
Consistency Policy : unknown
Name : 7c6ea9d0:MEDIA1-0 (local to host 7c6ea9d0)
UUID : 4e3578a2:76dbe9d5:9675befb:f0628190
Events : 2
Number Major Minor RaidDevice State
0 8 19 0 active sync /dev/sdb3
/dev/md/MEDIA2-0:
Version : 1.2
Creation Time : Sat Nov 4 21:44:41 2023
Raid Level : raid0
Array Size : 19523172224 (18618.75 GiB 19991.73 GB)
Raid Devices : 2
Total Devices : 2
Persistence : Superblock is persistent
Update Time : Sat Nov 4 21:44:41 2023
State : clean
Active Devices : 2
Working Devices : 2
Failed Devices : 0
Spare Devices : 0
Chunk Size : 64K
Consistency Policy : unknown
Name : 7c6ea9d0:MEDIA2-0 (local to host 7c6ea9d0)
UUID : c7b0da43:bbcee720:5535bbdd:ba8762e4
Events : 0
Number Major Minor RaidDevice State
0 8 35 0 active sync /dev/sdc3
1 8 51 1 active sync /dev/sdd3
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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade RN314 NAS
@claynz wrote:
Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid10] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4]
md125 : active raid1 sda3[0]
11714034624 blocks super 1.2 [1/1] [U]
md126 : active raid0 sdc3[0] sdd3[1]
19523172224 blocks super 1.2 64k chunks
md127 : active raid1 sdb3[0]
9761586112 blocks super 1.2 [1/1] [U]
This says three volumes
- md125 just disk 1 (RAID-1 not degraded, so jbod)
- md127 just disk 2 (RAID-1 not degraded, so jbod)
- md126 disks 3 and 4 (RAID-0)
Is that what you want?
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Yes, but why were I getting errors creating JOBD on Disk 1 and 2?
I was concerned it was showing RAID1 but if it is meant to be there then that's ok
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@claynz wrote:
Yes, but why were I getting errors creating JOBD on Disk 1 and 2?
No idea, as we didn't see exactly what the errors were.
@claynz wrote:
I was concerned it was showing RAID1 but if it is meant to be there then that's ok
I think it should be saying JBOD in the web ui, but mdstat looks ok.
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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade RN314 NAS
Can this NAS combine 3 x 10TB drives into one 30TB volume?
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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade RN314 NAS
@claynz wrote:
Can this NAS combine 3 x 10TB drives into one 30TB volume?
Yes, you can combine them using RAID-0. No redundancy, so everything will be lost when a single disk fails. So RAID-0 is rather fragile.
I prefer JBOD, putting some shares on each volume. You do need to make sure you have adequate free space on each volume - though I haven't found that to be difficult when using larger disks.
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I could do but I have a TV Show folder growing all the time, I suppose I could go back to A-Z filing or Ended/Current shows.
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@claynz wrote:
I could do but I have a TV Show folder growing all the time, I suppose I could go back to A-Z filing or Ended/Current shows.
This might depend on how you watch them. If you use something like Plex, then you can combine multiple shares into a single Plex library.
You can do what you want, as long as you are ok with restoring 30 TB of data when a disk needs to be replaced.
If you want one volume, then one alternative is to get big enough drives now to use XRAID with redundancy, so you can expand more easily in the future.
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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade RN314 NAS
lol, it took 2 days to transfer 16TB to the NAS after creating a 20TB RAID0
Yes I do use Plex, I could throw 4x20TB drives in it and do X-RAID, so that's 60TB of space with 20TB redundancy? 1 drive fails you are ok but 2 you have lost everything?
I thought of streaming Plex from the NAS but don't like the idea of the NAS running 24/7
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@claynz wrote:
I could throw 4x20TB drives in it and do X-RAID, so that's 60TB of space with 20TB redundancy? 1 drive fails you are ok but 2 you have lost everything?
Correct. And later on, you'd need to upgrade two drives to a larger size to increase capacity. Then upgrade the others (one at a time). If you always are adding drives that are at least as big as the largest you already have in the NAS, the volume size is computed by summing the drives and subtracting the largest. So if later on you had 2x30TB+2x20TB, you'd have 70 TB. 3x30TB+1x20TB would raise that to 80TB.
RAID redundancy is a good thing, but as I think you already know, you still need backup to protect against data loss.
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That's why I have the mirror copy of data on my computer as I do on my NAS.no need for redundancy
I am starting to download in 480p now quality is good and file size smaller.
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