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How to access R7000 when set as an access point?

Cynyster
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How to access R7000 when set as an access point?

I just set up my "old"  R7000 as an access point to extend the wifi reach of my R8000.

 

Just so we are clear.   IT WORKS. I am able to connect to the R7000 wifi and get to the internet.

 

The issue I am having is I have no way of connecting to the R7000 to administer it

and  I have no way of seeing what is connected to it.

 

Any suggestions?

Model: R7000|AC1900 Smart WIFI Router
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Cynyster
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Re: How to access R7000 when set as an access point?

I think I have come up with a "Work Around"

I connected a laptop directly to the R7000 and logged in  and enabled the "Remote Management" Option

 

With that enabled  I can login the router  and see what is connected to it.

 

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antinode
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Re: How to access R7000 when set as an access point?

> The issue I am having is I have no way of connecting to the R7000 to
> administer it

 

   Sure you do; you just don't know what it is.

 

   From a device which is connected directly to the R7000-as-WAP, so
that the R7000-as-WAP can intercept its DNS requests, the "routerlogin"
names are supposed to work.

 

   More reliably, and from anyplace on your LAN, you should be able to
specify the (LAN) IP address of the R7000-as-WAP.  You should be able to
find that address from an Attached Devices report on your main router.

 

   For convenience, you can reserve some memorable address for the
R7000-as-WAP on the main router (Address Reservation), so you wouldn't
need to search for it every time something restarts.

 

> and  I have no way of seeing what is connected to it.


   I know nothing, but I wouldn't bet that its Attached Devices report
would show only devices which are connected directly to it.  I'd expect
the Attached Devices report on the main router to show all the devices
on the LAN, with the devices wjich are connected directly to the
R7000-as-WAP being classified as "wired", because that's how the main
router sees them.

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Cynyster
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Re: How to access R7000 when set as an access point?

Sadly  this is not the case.  None of the devices connected to the wireless access point (R7000)  show up on the "connected" device list.

 

I do not mind this  if I can connect to the R7000 (which of course  I do not seem to be able to)

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Cynyster
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Re: How to access R7000 when set as an access point?

I think I have come up with a "Work Around"

I connected a laptop directly to the R7000 and logged in  and enabled the "Remote Management" Option

 

With that enabled  I can login the router  and see what is connected to it.

 

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antinode
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Re: How to access R7000 when set as an access point?

> I connected a laptop directly to the R7000 and logged in and enabled
> the "Remote Management" Option

 

   That would suggest that you haven't actually 'set up [your] "old"
R7000 as an access point', because, if you had, then that feature would
be disabled.

 

      https://kb.netgear.com/26765

 

   So, what you _actually_ did is a mystery.  That includes what you
connected to what, and how you configured anything.  (Hint: If a device
has different types of ports, then "connected to device" is not enough
detail.)

 

   It might be educational to compare the IP addresses of devices which
are connected to your R7000 with those of devices which are connected to
your R8000.  Those would all be on the same subnet if the R7000 were
actually configured as a WAP.


   Visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your model number, and look
for Documentation.  Get the User Manual (at least).  Read.  Look for
"Set Up the Router as a WiFi Access Point".


> I think I have come up with a "Work Around"

 

   If you actually had done what you said you had done, then there'd be
nothing to work around.  If all you did was to cascade two NAT routers,
then there might be more to work around than you've yet discovered.

 

> With that enabled I can login the router [...]

 

   How, exactly?

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Re: How to access R7000 when set as an access point?


@Cynyster wrote:

 

The issue I am having is I have no way of connecting to the R7000 to administer it

and  I have no way of seeing what is connected to it.

 


You can get in by finding the IP address that the router has allocated to your R7000.

 

There are various ways of doing this, including visiting the controls of the router itself and looking for the IP address in attached devices.

 

You can also use something like the Netgear desktop genie for your operating system.

 

genie | Product | Support | NETGEAR

 

Your claimed "solution" does not actually make sense.

 

Disabled Features on the Router when set to AP Mode | Answer | NETGEAR Support

 

That includes Remote Management.

 

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Cynyster
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Re: How to access R7000 when set as an access point?

I am responsible for what I say,  not what you understand.

I connected to the R7000 directly... (aka take a laptop. connect a Cat5 cable between the laptop and the R7000)

I set the R7000 so that remote administration was enabled.

Now I can connect to the R7000  with any computer on my network.

Now that I can login to the R7000 I can  monitor the devices that are connecting to the R7000....

 

If you need a more detailed explaination please  ask your nearest 12 year Old

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Re: How to access R7000 when set as an access point?


@Cynyster wrote:

I connected to the R7000 directly... (aka take a laptop. connect a Cat5 cable between the laptop and the R7000)

 


That is a direct connection. It is an excellent way to get into the controls of the R7000 in AP mode.

 

It is not "remote administration", a term that Netgear does not use.

 

Remote Management, Netgear's description, which was mentioned in an earlier message, is designed to let you use the Internet to access your devices from somewhere out in the world. As the manual puts it:

 

"The remote management feature lets you access your router over the Internet to view or change its settings."

 

Enabling your router's remote management | Answer | NETGEAR Support

 

They have moved access to that feature in some devices. It is now in Web Services Management.

 

This is the feature that at least two of us, along with Netgear's documentation, think that Remote Management does not work with a router in AP mode. (It certainly doesn't here.)

 

Plugging a cable into the R7000 does not count as connecting over the Internet.

 

I mention this only to warn anyone who sees the "Solved" flag on this conversation and tries to go down the same road. They might get lost.

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antinode
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Re: How to access R7000 when set as an access point?

> I am responsible for what I say, not what you understand.

 

   I'm not responsible for what you misunderstand.  "[wireless] access
point" is a technical term with a specific meaning.

 

> I set the R7000 so that remote administration was enabled.

 

   Then you didn't configure "the R7000" as a WAP.

 

> If you need a more detailed explaination please ask your nearest 12
> year Old

 

   I would not be amazed if any random twelve-year-old understood this
material better than you, but a non-psychic twelve-year-old would not
likely be able to answer any of the pending questions about what you did
or what you observed.

 

   If you're happy, then I'm happy, but if you think that you know what
you're doing, then you might be mistaken about that, too.

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