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Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

Jammers
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Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

I'm looking for a new ac wireless router and want to know which of these models is the best. What are the pros and cons of each router?
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Jammers
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Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

Well i just pulled the trigger on the R7000. Usually i go for the latest and greatest but it sounds like the R8000 still has some bugs to work out and the R7000 more then meets my needs. 🙂

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Retired_Member
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Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

You might try searching on this subject. I believe one or more threads are already started.


The short answer is the r8000 offers two 5g radios so if you need that option choose the r8000 if not then the r7000.
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Redtulips7
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Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

R8000=R70000+Extra 5G
Nighthawk AX12[RAX120]
Nighthawk X10[R9000]
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Fairytail
Virtuoso

Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

Check the link below for comparison of the devices.

http://www.netgear.com/compare.aspx
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LeeH
Prodigy

Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

One pro for the R7000 is that there is a version of DD-WRT for it but the R8000 is not supported.

The R7000 Netgear firmware is more mature but some people still have problems with it. I do not have those problems with the newer firmware. The R7000 runs good for me.

Remember these forums are for people who have problems with their routers and most of the people without router problems don't log in here.
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LeeH
Prodigy

Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

I spoke to soon. It looks like they will be supporting the R8000 with DD-WRT.

http://www.myopenrouter.com/download/56765/DD-WRT-for-R8000/
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Jammers
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Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

Just what is DD-WRT and what does it do?
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Retired_Member
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Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

DD-WRT is 3rd party FW. It offers some options which are Not offered by NG.
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Jammers
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Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

Well i just pulled the trigger on the R7000. Usually i go for the latest and greatest but it sounds like the R8000 still has some bugs to work out and the R7000 more then meets my needs. 🙂
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Redtulips7
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Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

You made a wise decision dude 😄
Nighthawk AX12[RAX120]
Nighthawk X10[R9000]
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dallascowboyswo
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Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

Why would you need two 5hz channels?
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R7800 Nighthawk Smart AC1900 Wifi Router
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sutedy
Guide

Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

Jammers wrote:
Well i just pulled the trigger on the R7000. Usually i go for the latest and greatest but it sounds like the R8000 still has some bugs to work out and the R7000 more then meets my needs. 🙂


If I were you, I will neither buy R8000 nor Asus RT87U.

Do not believe 4x4 MU-MIMO will solve your busy WLAN problems as up to today there's none of AC client adapter supports this (max 3x3).

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/32518-netgear-r7500-nighthawk-x4-smart-wifi...
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RogerSC
Virtuoso

Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

dallascowboysworldchamps wrote:
Why would you need two 5hz channels?


Say you had stopped using 2.4GHz. wireless because it had slowed down in your neighborhood or apartment due to a lot of interference from various sources. And you had cut out your cable TV and were now getting your TV and phone over the internet. Plus you have some other sources of media streaming, like a NAS, And you have laptops and mobile devices that want to just casually use the internet, but don't need a lot of speed. And several people live in your house or apartment that are doing different things on the internet. You might want some fairly clear bandwidth on 5GHz. for streaming, and maybe some bandwidth for the the devices that use the internet casually (not streaming), but you don't want them to disturb the streaming that's also going on.

I'm not in the place where I need that much bandwidth, but I do currently subscribe to cable TV, and only get about 28Mbps from my ISP. I also don't have a NAS currently, but we do stream Netflix and Amazon Prime movies. And we have 3 adults living here, with frequent adult visitors. So we couldn't use that much bandwidth, or even as much as we have now with the R7000.

However I can see how a router that can intelligently allocate a couple of radios between different purposes could be very useful under some circumstances. I don't think that the R8000 firmware is that intelligent in allocating particular usage patterns to radios itself at the moment, but I believe that you can do it manually. At some point in the future, the R8000 firmware may get to the point where it can transparently do the radio allocation, and things will work better for those that need that much bandwidth.

At the moment, the R7000 provides all the bandwidth that we need, with plenty of room for more *smile*.
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VE6CGX
Master

Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

Hi,
I tried R8000 for a week or so and replaced it with R7500. In R8000, on 5GHz, radio 1 uses lower side freq. spectrum vs. radio 2 using higher side. Because of this the signal at given distance is little bit different between two radios. radio 2 has better signal. Throughput rate between 2 radios maybe slightly different because of this. R7500
has long way to go to realize it's superior hardware but at the moment I like it's QOS and stock f/w is quite stable. OpenWRT beta f/w is also available with some issues and I tried it to find out it is working well as good as stock f/w on basic router function.
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sutedy
Guide

Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

Can you post your result?
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VE6CGX
Master

Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

dallascowboysworldchamps wrote:
Why would you need two 5hz channels?


Hi,
To improve total throughput.....
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VE6CGX
Master

Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

Hi,
R7500 for now is slightly slower than R7000, Linksys WRT1900AC, overall but QOS works very well specially with my Big Foot Killer WiFi cards. I hope
new f/w will tap into more powerful hardware, I don't care much about MU-MIMO.
Even at same clock rate Qualcomm cpu will be faster than Broadcom one due to
different platform. OpenWRT beta f/w was quite buggy except basic router function but easy to flash or revert(by TFTP).
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sutedy
Guide

Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

VE6CGX wrote:
Hi,
To improve total throughput.....


Does this technology exist today? I am talking about 4x4 MU-MIMO
wireless client adapter for desktop or laptop.

Quoted "Although I am told that MU-MIMO is currently enabled in the router, there are no clients to test it with"

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/32485-asus-rt-ac87u-dual-band-wireless-ac24...

I noted there are two routers asus RT87U or netgear R8000 currently supports it.
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Redtulips7
Apprentice

Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

sutedy wrote:
Can you post your result?

result???:confused::confused::confused:Am I taking exam here?
Nighthawk AX12[RAX120]
Nighthawk X10[R9000]
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sutedy
Guide

Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

Redtulips7 wrote:
result???:confused::confused::confused:Am I taking exam here?


:D:D:D not result as in exam. But rather your own experience

See this router log with other firmware version

http://forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?t=93283&page=2

Can share yours?
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RogerSC
Virtuoso

Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

sutedy, not sure why you don't believe what people say? I'd rather see what people have to say how long their router is up between reboots or resets than fill the forum with router status postings.

If people care enough to lie, they can easily fix a router status posting to say whatever they want. They're not certified or notarized or anything *smile*.
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sutedy
Guide

Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

Roger. FYI, I am very sceptical person 😄
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Jfchamblain
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Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

Does anyone know if the tomato firmware for r7000 works on r8000?
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lutin78
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Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

Jammers wrote:
Well i just pulled the trigger on the R7000. Usually i go for the latest and greatest but it sounds like the R8000 still has some bugs to work out and the R7000 more then meets my needs. 🙂


hello
chatting with supporting teams about 7000/7500/8000, it have appeared that regarding to the number of bands, a tri-band router would have a better ability to route messages between a higher number of connected users (approximatly 20users per band.)

So a tri-band router like R8000 would be able to support 60 connected devices instead of 40 max with a bi band.

From Europa/France/paris, I had issue to get a R8000, waiting for one within 10 days.
As example, support-chat advice me that for my network with:
- DG2200M used as backuped modem (adsl/3G-4G)
- DGND4000 head of LAN and DHCP server
* direct access for admin
* R8000 : professionnal use with 4 other smart and manageable switches
*WG602 game use
* GS110T and 2 other smart and manageable switches
R7000 or R7500 would be too weak to handle users (total connected devices : more than 40 among 70 devices and 110 IP)

As of today they are bought but not there so I cannot confirm advice or give more return from experience.

lutin78
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bill1228
Guide

Re: Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000

Jfchamblain wrote:
Does anyone know if the tomato firmware for r7000 works on r8000?


Shibby does not support the r8000. He is the one doing most of the mods these days. Victek has not done anything for several months and Toastman has never supported the ARM fouters.
--bill
R7000 Firmware XVortex Merlin Port.

Everyone has a right to be stupid once in awhile. Yet some just abuse the privilege.
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