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OneJoe2
Jun 13, 2020Tutor
Should the R8000 UI see devices connected via a GS308 switch?
In the supplied user interface, on the Basic tab, "attached devices/wired devices" area, should I be seeing any info at all (like status, IP, MAC address) for devices on a connected GS308v2 or is ...
- Jun 13, 2020
You should see all devices connected to the switch
michaelkenward
Jun 14, 2020Guru
As long as the switch as after the router.
OneJoe2
Jun 17, 2020Tutor
cable modem -> R8000 router -> GS308 switch -> devices
This is considered after the router, yes?
I replaced the switch with a new GS308v3, changed to new cables and still can't "see" the devices on the switch.
All devices work fine if I connect them directly to the router but not on the (new) switch.
I assume it doesn't matter which of the 4 ports I use to connect the switch to the router and that it's okay to be using the other 3 ports for other devices simultaneously
And that it doesn't matter which port on the switch that I use to connect to the router?
Either my expectatons are wrong, the router is broken or my connections are wrong?
- michaelkenwardJun 17, 2020Guru
OneJoe2 wrote:
cable modem -> R8000 router -> GS308 switch -> devices
This is considered after the router, yes?
That's right. After all, you are asking the router to tell you what is connected to it.
Out of interest, but possibly relevant, what is this cable modem? Make and model?
OneJoe2 wrote:
I replaced the switch with a new GS308v3, changed to new cables and still can't "see" the devices on the switch.
All devices work fine if I connect them directly to the router but not on the (new) switch.
So, none of the devices that you add to the network through the new switch will work? Is that also the case for the old switch? Invisible and not working?
I ask because earlier on it was the invisibility that troubled you. Now it is that and the fact that they also don't work.
- OneJoe2Jun 17, 2020Tutor
The cable modem is a Cisco DCP3008.
Sorry if I misled about "can't see/doesn't work". None of the devices on the switch are accessible via the network. But the type of devices made that difficult for me to prove to myself. A webcam's propriety software is unable to find the device, I'm unable to map a NAS, and I dont have access to the Dlink router installed by the security company to confirm connectivity. So I moved went from a lack of proveable functionaly to trying to "see" they were even connecting to the network by checking the router UI.
But I may have found the problem. I removed all the cables fron the switch and reconnected them one at time, stopping to check the wired device status on the router UI. This first device I connect did appear on the wired devices list and the 2nd one did too. But when I connected the 3rd device, they all disappeared from "wired devices".
I'm guessing the chances of a new cable failing in the same way as the one it replaced is highly unlikely but that appears to be what's happening. I'll leave it disconnected until I can get a new cable and will monitor to ensure all is well.
Thank you your help and for being respectful while I thought this through.
- michaelkenwardJun 17, 2020Guru
OneJoe2 wrote:
The cable modem is a Cisco DCP3008.
If that is the DPC3008 then that rules out some possibilities.
OneJoe2 wrote:
But I may have found the problem. I removed all the cables fron the switch and reconnected them one at time, stopping to check the wired device status on the router UI. This first device I connect did appear on the wired devices list and the 2nd one did too. But when I connected the 3rd device, they all disappeared from "wired devices".
You seem to have homed in on the problem.Good research Sherlock.
You can narrow it down to the cable, and rule out the devices, by testing the third device with one of the other cables.
Maybe you did that.
- antinodeJun 17, 2020Guru
> That's right. [...]
It's "right" if you start ar your ISP, and count toward your own
computer. Obviously, it's the opposite if you start at your own
computer, and count toward your ISP. I'm unaware of any industry
standard, or any reasonable rationale, which says which way you should
view your network. (But I'm always open to enlightenment.) Hence:> I don't know what "before" or "after" a router means. It's an
> ambiguous nonsense concept. I do know what the WAN side and the LAN
> side of a router mean.Think about it. If you can.
- antinodeJun 17, 2020Guru
> This is considered after the router, yes?
I don't know what "before" or "after" a router means. It's an
ambiguous nonsense concept. I do know what the WAN side and the LAN
side of a router mean.If a port on your switch is connected to a LAN Ethernet port on the
router, then things should work properly.Now, let's move on to actual facts.
> [...] still can't "see" the devices on the switch.
What are these (unspecified) "devices"?
> All devices work fine if I connect them directly to the router but not
> on the (new) switch.
Is your complaint that these (mystery) devices do not _work_ if you
connect them to the switch, or that they work, but don't appear in an
Attached Devices report on the router, or what, exactly?> I assume it doesn't matter which of the 4 ports I use to connect the
> switch to the router [...]Any one of the four router LAN ports should be fine for the
connection to any one of the switch ports.> [...] and that it's okay to be using the other 3 ports for other
> devices simultaneouslyYup.
Now it's my turn. _I_ assume that these devices have some kind of
LED port-status indicators, which only one of us can see. Care to share
the enlightenment? Have you tried swapping cables?
> Either my expectatons are wrong, the router is broken or my
> connections are wrong?Your expectations seem ok. If a router LAN port works with an
individual device, then it should work with a network switch. A bad
switch could cause problems for a device which is connected to the
switch. I can't see your "my connections". But some of this sounds
strangely familiar.- OneJoe2Jun 17, 2020Tutor
antinode wrote:. But some of this sounds
strangely familiar.https://community.netgear.com/t5/x/x/m-p/1927787
Good memory. I know it's not easy being the sensei and having a never-ending stream of idiotic people appear here to ask the same idiotic questions but I had to bail on that thread.