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theguptas
Mar 31, 2021Guide
Orbi 753 unencrypted 5ghz network even though WPA2 security is turned on
Hi Everyone, I have searched through the forum and seen other people have similar issues but briefly 1) RBK753, satellites setup with ethernet backhaul, router running in AP mode 2) from day 1...
FURRYe38
Apr 07, 2021Guru
Yes for other AP that is probably true. However for ALL Orbi systems the WAN port needs to be used. :smileywink:
gerald732
Apr 07, 2021Tutor
I tried plugging the ethernet cable from the ISP model to the RBR WAN port. I was able to get the RBS and RBR to sync up in wireless mode. However, the wifi network that is broadcasted does not provide Internet connection. This is weird :/
- gerald732Apr 07, 2021Tutor
My bad, actually the wifi is working on the RBR. I think it was an issue with the ios device i'm using to connect to it. I've sync the RBS with the RBR in wireless mode in close proximty. Afterwards, I powered off the RBS, brought it to the further end of the house. Plugged in the ethernet cable coming from the switch to the LAN port.
The RBS is not detected as a recognised satellite device in the list of attached device in the RBR.
- gerald732Apr 07, 2021Tutor
I decided to bypass the switch and connect the RBS to the RBR. It syncs, but same issue. 5ghz is running with security type none. I did what was suggested: switch to WPA3 and sync again. With this, the RBR and RBS has the same wifi security settings. However, when I toggle it back to WPA2, the same issue occurs.
This is definitely a FW bug. It's easily reproducible.
- FURRYe38Apr 07, 2021Guru
SO the RBS is wirelessly connected to the RBR when you have the WPA setting? How long are you waiting to refresh the RBS page when you check the status here?
Do you have 1 or 2 RBS?
- gerald732Apr 07, 2021Tutor
I have 1 RBS. I checked it after 1 or 2 minutes. But the RBS has been running for some time now, 30mins, with ethernet backhaul directly connected to the RBR Lan port. It's still reporting no security on 5GHZ.
- FURRYe38Apr 07, 2021Guru
Ok, Lets get this right...RBR is in AP Mode with it's WAN Port connected to host router:
So ethernet at the remote locaiton is no security on RBS.
Ethernet near by RBR with a patch cable is with good security on RBS?
Wirleess RBS connected to RBR is good security on RBS?
- gerald732Apr 07, 2021Tutor
Ok, Lets get this right...RBR is in AP Mode with it's WAN Port connected to host router:
Yup.
So ethernet at the remote locaiton is no security on RBS. True. Ethernet near by RBR with a patch cable is with good security on RBS? Have not tried this.
Wirleess RBS connected to RBR is good security on RBS?
Used to be true. Not true anymore. When I tried syncing in wireless mode, the satellite ended up with a green pulse ring light. I tried doing a factory reset on the Router and Satellite. Right now, the router cannot even detect the satellite in wireless mode. The syncrhonisation just isn't working.
I think it might be a faulty satellite device. Is the satellite supposed to go into a state with non blinking white pulse light? Mine is forever blinking.
- FURRYe38Apr 07, 2021Guru
gerald732 wrote:Ok, Lets get this right...RBR is in AP Mode with it's WAN Port connected to host router:
Yup.
So ethernet at the remote locaiton is no security on RBS. True. Ethernet near by RBR with a patch cable is with good security on RBS? Have not tried this.
Had hoped you would have tried this. However seem that this may not work at this time....
Wirleess RBS connected to RBR is good security on RBS?
Used to be true. Not true anymore. When I tried syncing in wireless mode, the satellite ended up with a green pulse ring light. I tried doing a factory reset on the Router and Satellite. Right now, the router cannot even detect the satellite in wireless mode. The syncrhonisation just isn't working.
Can you factory reset the RBS and connect 1 wired PC to the back of the RBS and wait 5 minutes and see if you can access the RBSs web page at 192.168.1.250? If so, Try sending the RBS FW file here.
I think it might be a faulty satellite device. Is the satellite supposed to go into a state with non blinking white pulse light? Mine is forever blinking.
Ya I'm thinking you have a bad RBS unit. I would make contact with NG support and ask them for a RMA for a RBS unit or the entire system, both RBR and RBS. You can ask for a cross shipping RMA as well. This will allow you keep your current system while they ship you a new unit out. If you can, Test the new RBS to the old RBR to see if the problem appears, would be telling. If the problem continues, then of course, install the new RBR and RBS and test. I would recommend testing the RBS near the RBR initally with wireless, then if status is good after say 5 minutes, then connec the RBS via ethernet cable and check again.
- gerald732Apr 07, 2021Tutor
Okay, I actually powered off and on the RBS after factory reset, and i'm able to sync it up successfully in wireless mode. I did the wireless sync up, then cable patch in Router mode. Subsequently, I switched it to AP mode. I did not remove the RBS as a device in the attached list. It was able to sync in wireless mode. I then did a cable patch between the RBR and RBS beside each other. The sync worked.
Now when I placed RBS at the other end of the house with direct connection to the lan port of the RBR, it's able to sync as well. The security settings is correct.
Oh my god, I think this device and its firmware is clearly not a finished product. But I'm glad that it's working now. Though, I still wonder if this was because of a defect in either the RBS or RBR.
This time round, I did the setup on the ios mobile app except for when changing the region to Singapore and switching to AP mode from Router mode.
Hope this helps anyone else that's facing the same issue.
- FURRYe38Apr 07, 2021Guru
Ok, when I configured my RBR and RBS, I used the RBRs web page and setup the RBR for AP mode and configured it all using a web browser. Not the Orbi app. Wondering if there is something in the app causing problems. Not the first time it could be blamed.
I'd take a backup configuration to file on the RBR for safe keeping.
Let us know how it goes in next couple of days. Hoping it should be ok now.
- fangruoyuanApr 07, 2021GuideI think the satellite is fine,this kind of device is not that easy to be broken if you got it good in the first time. Don't be a tester again,it is a firmware issue. All they ask you to do is totally waste of time. They just refuse to acknowledge this problem. It exists since orbi(ax)put on sale.
- FURRYe38Apr 07, 2021Guru
If you feel this is a FW issue, you'll need to contact NG support and talk to them about it. Others have not seen this, accept for you and one other. The other seems to have resolved it. IF you can resolve yours then contact NG support and have them help you. There is nothing we can do here in the forum for you.
I have not seen with with my system as of yet.
fangruoyuan wrote:
I think the satellite is fine,this kind of device is not that easy to be broken if you got it good in the first time. Don't be a tester again,it is a firmware issue. All they ask you to do is totally waste of time. They just refuse to acknowledge this problem. It exists since orbi(ax)put on sale. - fangruoyuanApr 07, 2021GuideThanks. As I said ,they refused to acknowledge this problem. All they ask me to do is like you mentioned to resetup,resync and others. This is not a solution to this issue. The right solution is to fix the firmware.
- fangruoyuanApr 07, 2021GuideResetup and resync sometimes is not a solution. It just covers up the bugs in the firmware
. - fangruoyuanApr 07, 2021GuideThis kind of non-secure wifi bug should not exists in any orbi setup. (I mean no matter
How you setup your Orbi) For me, rbk 50 have no secure wifi problem no matter how I set it up(wireless,wired, ap mode, router mode) Please check how many firmware versions rbk 50 have. Rbk50 might have this bug too in the earlier stage. - FURRYe38Apr 07, 2021Guru
Maybe give this a try and see if it helps. Again your system maybe in a bad state is all. One user having problems doesn't consitute a global problem in FW. IF NG isn't acknowledging it then probably means they checked and it's not a problem. You need to take steps to correct your system or ask NG for additional help and support. Maybe an RMA.
My RBK50 system doesn't see this as well. Wireless or wired RBS. All is secure on current FW. Same goes for my Orbi AX system.
- FURRYe38Apr 07, 2021Guru
This user was able to get this going:
I suggest you try this as well.
- fangruoyuanApr 07, 2021GuideI think more people will join this discussion unless NG fix it. Since orbi ax 3series and 7series is on sale now, and I think they share some core codes in the firmware with 8series. With more orbi ax series, more people will find this issue.
- FURRYe38Apr 07, 2021Guru
Until they do, you seem to be the only one. Again, Try what other users have done or contact NG support.
Good Luck.