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RBK852 devices connected through ethernet ports are slow.
It is encouraging that some people are using this new system without any major bugs.
Thank you all other for your contribution.
My laptop or desktop connected through ethernet ports of both Router and the Satellite are slow. Instead of 950 Mbps before, I only get 200Mbps wired. Wirelessly I am very happy. On iphone Xs max I get 650 Mbps in different rooms where the router and satellite are connected together with wire.
I updated automatically to the new firmware version of 3.1.5.23.
The Router's WAN port is connected ATT 's Arris BGW 210 RGW in pass through mode. I have not disabled ATT router's wireless yet. When I connect the laptop to the back of the ATT's RGW I get Gigbps speeds. If I can't fix this problem, was thinking connecting all the wired devices to RGW and all the wireless devices to this mesh system. Is there any problems doing that?
I need to add 1 RB50Y outdoor wired to my exsisting RBS852 satellite for my outdoor devices 65 feet away from the house.
I have a 7000 sq ft 3 story home and may need an extra AX6000 satellite.
Problem solved.
Connecting the ethernet wire from RBR 850 to RBS 850 must be the last step of the set up.
First I made sure the RBR setup is complet while RBS is not connected to the power. Connection speeds: Laptop wired: 950Mbps, I-phone XmaxS 650 Mbps in the same room.
Then I factory reseted the RBS and synced wirelessly with RBR 35 feet away.
After the Blue light on RBS is turned off and my I-phone Xs Max showed 400 Mbps, then I connected the in wall Cat 6 Ethernet wire from the cenral room where ONT, RGW and RBR 850 are. The wired backhaul method gave higher wifi speeds than the wireless backhaul. On I-phone Xs Max I got 600-650 Mbps. All the devices connected to the back of RBS are fine and my HTPC desktop 2 floors down gets 950-1000 Mbps.
My phone still gets 250 Mbps 2 floors away. Is this sattelite stronger than RBS50?
This 2 node system covers 5000sq f
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DoctorA wrote:My laptop or desktop connected through ethernet ports of both Router and the Satellite are slow. Instead of 950 Mbps before, I only get 200Mbps wired. Wirelessly I am very happy. On iphone Xs max I get 650 Mbps in different rooms where the router and satellite are connected together with wire.
If the wireless clients connected to the router or to the satellite are making this speed, it looks like the poor wired LAN performance on both the router and the sat on must be a bug. As with other users having deployed Orni AX with a wired backhaul suffering from poor throughout, it appears the Beta was mainly wireless backhaul oriented.
DoctorA wrote:The Router's WAN port is connected ATT 's Arris BGW 210 RGW in pass through mode. ... If I can't fix this problem, was thinking connecting all the wired devices to RGW and all the wireless devices to this mesh system.
With the Orbi Router in router/NAT mode, there would be two different networks. With the ATT device in pass-through mode you will only get one (or a very low number of (public) IP addresses assigned. The approach would be using the expensive Orbi AX in wireless AP mode, and enable the routing/NAT on the ATT device again.
DoctorA wrote:I need to add 1 RB50Y outdoor wired to my exsisting RBS852 satellite for my outdoor devices 65 feet away from the house.
The RBS50Y can't be (Ethernet) wired - it is a pure wireless satellite - I'm afraid.
PS: Great documentation showing cabling and layout - saves a lot of questions!
schumaku wrote:
DoctorA wrote:My laptop or desktop connected through ethernet ports of both Router and the Satellite are slow. Instead of 950 Mbps before, I only get 200Mbps wired. Wirelessly I am very happy. On iphone Xs max I get 650 Mbps in different rooms where the router and satellite are connected together with wire.
If the wireless clients connected to the router or to the satellite are making this speed, it looks like the poor wired LAN performance on both the router and the sat on must be a bug. As with other users having deployed Orni AX with a wired backhaul suffering from poor throughout, it appears the Beta was mainly wireless backhaul oriented.
With the Orbi Router in router/NAT mode, there would be two different networks. With the ATT device in pass-through mode you will only get one (or a very low number of (public) IP addresses assigned. The approach would be using the expensive Orbi AX in wireless AP mode, and enable the routing/NAT on the ATT device again.
The RBS50Y can't be (Ethernet) wired - it is a pure wireless satellite - I'm afraid.
PS: Great documentation showing cabling and layout - saves a lot of questions!
Thank you very much for your help. I disconnected the wire between the Orbi router and the satellite and everything wireless is working fine. Also the laptop pysically connected to the Router with a short ethernet wire performed at 950 Mbps after eliminating RBR to RBS wire connecting LAN signals from ONT/ RGW room to the master bedroom. I tested that wire again and it is capable of Gigabit speeds and there is no managed nor dumb switch involved. All this points to possible bug in the wired backhaul like you mentioned. This, plus your suggestion to use this indeed "expensive'' system as only AP and your new information that the RBS50Y is only wireles made me to decide to get another system. I need a mesh system with 1 Router and 3 satellites in AP mode. I have 4 CAT6 jacks in my home. Perhaps AC3000 (RBK53) and one RBS 50. it will cost less with more coverage.
I hope there are no bugs in this 1 year old system. Any suggestions?
I have 4 AirTies 4920 mesh extenders with my Att RGW Aris BGW 210 and they can't handle all my family's devices.
Thank you
DoctorA wrote:This, plus your suggestion to use this indeed "expensive'' system as only AP and your new information that the RBS50Y is only wireles made me to decide to get another system. I need a mesh system with 1 Router and 3 satellites in AP mode.
I'm convinced that the RBK852 system will grow up and the firmware will be enhanced over time.
DoctorA wrote:
I have 4 CAT6 jacks in my home. Perhaps AC3000 (RBK53) and one RBS 50. it will cost less with more coverage.Are these CAT6 jacks all wired to direct the central room where the ATT RGW device is located? You might want to look into Netgear's Insight offerings for example, run some "core" switch there (PoE if some rooms require only a wireless AP), and a small Insight cloud manageable switch and an AP where you need both GbE ports and a WAC.
Modem Combo Units:
This would be a double NAT condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router. https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktopWhat are you speed if you configure the RBR in AP mode with the ISP modem in router mode with ALL of it's WiFi disabled?
DoctorA wrote:It is encouraging that some people are using this new system without any major bugs.
Thank you all other for your contribution.
My laptop or desktop connected through ethernet ports of both Router and the Satellite are slow. Instead of 950 Mbps before, I only get 200Mbps wired. Wirelessly I am very happy. On iphone Xs max I get 650 Mbps in different rooms where the router and satellite are connected together with wire.
I updated automatically to the new firmware version of 3.1.5.23.
The Router's WAN port is connected ATT 's Arris BGW 210 RGW in pass through mode. I have not disabled ATT router's wireless yet. When I connect the laptop to the back of the ATT's RGW I get Gigbps speeds. If I can't fix this problem, was thinking connecting all the wired devices to RGW and all the wireless devices to this mesh system. Is there any problems doing that?
I need to add 1 RB50Y outdoor wired to my exsisting RBS852 satellite for my outdoor devices 65 feet away from the house.
I have a 7000 sq ft 3 story home and may need an extra AX6000 satellite.
My RGW is in pass trough mode allready.
My neighbor has the same identical settings but with older Netgear AC3000 (RBK53) system and speeds are aronound 950 wired and 600 Mbps wirelessly.
I will keep the same settings and try with that model soon and report back.
I forgot to add that I selected the mac address of the RBR 850 automatically from dropdown menu of the ATT RGW pass trough page. The last number of that address is one digit higher than the physical number on the bottom of the RBR 850. Is this normal?
Is this double NAT condition?
RGW is in passthrough mode and NAT server is off and wifi antennas are off.
You would need to input the IP address that the RBR gets from the modem router in to the Default Internal Server box if you want to run the RBR in router mode with the modem.
