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dstrausser83
Mar 21, 2020Guide
Verizon Fios ONT & AX6000
Ok - I got a weird issue.... I hooked up my Orbi AX6000 directly to the ONT using a Cat7 cable. Pretty rockin you'd think, right? Not so much. Speed is actually SLOWER than if I hooked up th...
- Apr 02, 2020
Please make a new post about your NAS connection issues.
Please mark this thread as solved so others will know.
Something to look into:
Thank you.
Jmartinb
Mar 29, 2020Aspirant
My apologies for the confusion. Yes, the FIOS ONT is the large box on the side of my house. I was referring to the FIOS gateway device in my home that I used to access via the 192.168 network.
FURRYe38
Mar 29, 2020Guru
This would be a double NAT condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router. https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktop
Jmartinb wrote:My apologies for the confusion. Yes, the FIOS ONT is the large box on the side of my house. I was referring to the FIOS gateway device in my home that I used to access via the 192.168 network.
- JmartinbMar 29, 2020Aspirant
I had Verizon configure the ONT so that I can use the Ethernet connection. It is now connected directly the Orbi and my Internet service is working well, all internal wireless devices on the 10. network.
I also have my ONT coax interface active and connected to the gateway device to drive all the FIOS TV services. Essentailly, two networks.
Given the Orbi is now connected directly to the ONT, what can I do to make the Orbi as secure as possible until Netgear provides us with better security tools?
Thanks all for the help.
- ScottD67Mar 29, 2020Star
From my understanding only connecting the Verizon gateway to your ONT coax and not bridging it between the Orbi LAN and the ONT Coax will result in some loss of functionality. The FioS STBs get their video directly from the ONT coax so you can watch video on your STBs, that all works fine. However, Verizon's gateway plays a role in getting guide information and Video on Demand to your FiOS STBs. If it isn't connected as a bridge between your Orbi's LAN ethernet and the coax I don't believe you'll get FiOS video on demand services for example. I also think your guide data will get stale. All of this needs to be on one LAN IP network for it to work, not split into two IP networks unless you've decided you don't need the guide and VOD.
Sidenote: Per other replys on this thread you shouldn't have be concerned about double NAT'ing, the only NAT happens in the router in these configurations (Orbi or the Verizon Gateway whichever is routing from the WAN). The ONT is not an IP network device - it essentially splits optical signals and multplexes them into different physical interfaces (Coax, Ethernet, Phone). There's no IP termination in the ONT.
- dstrausser83Apr 02, 2020Guide
Hey all, so with my situation, it all seems to be fixed... Good info there and basically I set mine up essentially how that link was posted by accident it seems like lol
No double NAT. TV STB connected and run fine.
I do have an odd issue though. I run a QNAP NAS at my house. When I ran through the VZ Quantum Gateway, connectivity was perfect. No issue. Now with the Orbi, even using UPnP or doing manual port fowrads, I can't get ports 8081 or 80 to work. To prove it is not an issue because of how I currently have the network setup, I completely disconnected the VZ Quantum Gateway and it has no impact on the results.Same thing.
I know how to port forward and all that fun stuff, but for some reason these ports won't open and forward. Verizon has confirmed all ports are open.
What am I doing wrong here?
Again, don't consider double nat or any issues with how I am running it because like I stated, I can have the Quantum Gateway completely disconnected from the network and I have this issue. It seems that when I use the Verizon Gateway though as the primary driver and set those ports to forward, they actually do forward. Opening the ports in the Orbi doesn't seem to be working.
What ideas do ya'll have?
Thanks
- FURRYe38Apr 02, 2020Guru
Please make a new post about your NAS connection issues.
Please mark this thread as solved so others will know.
Something to look into:
Thank you.
- dstrausser83Apr 02, 2020Guide
Will do. Thanks.
- FURRYe38Apr 02, 2020Guru
Enjoy.