Hello, I saw this topic here. But I would like understand why all upper 5Ghz channels are unavailabled for the clients. In Europe, at least in France, we can use the next channels in 80Mhz :36, 40, 44, 4852, 56, 60, 64100, 104, 108, 112116, 120, 124, 128So, we have 4*80Mhz available. Why Orbi cannot do a channels distribution like this (or another order)?36, 40, 44, 48 : choice of user to assign them to the Orbi base or satellite52, 56, 60, 64 : choice of user to assign them to the Orbi base or satellite100, 104, 108, 112 : choice of user to assign them to the Orbi base or satellite116, 120, 124, 128 : dedicated to backhaulWith such a possibility, we can avoid signal noise from neighbours and from the other Orbi devices. Because now, Orbi base uses the same channels as Orbi satellite(s), which is really not optimized.And I have neighbours with same 5Ghz channels in use. Can someone explain to me why all 52 to 128 channels are locked for users?

Follow on from my last post - looks like we need at least 179 kudos points to get this to the top of the idea list. So please if you see this thread and agree this is any issue worth fixing just click on Kudos. Personally I think there are much more marginal improvements on the idea list that would only benefit a small proportion of users, but fixing this issue would improve the product perfoirmance for everyone that lives in an urban area with congested 5GHZ usage. Thanks for your support!

Hi I agree with all the points in this thread and submitted an idea to Negear to address this major product flaw. See https://community.netgear.com/t5/Idea-Exchange-For-Home/Please-provide-more-5GHZ-wifi-channel-options-restricting-to/idc-p/1641642#M1785 Please give it Kudos and try and get Negtgear to look at it as it's not even been reviewed yet - Negear keeping asking for product feedback but very very slow in even responding to ideas and so far only 1 idea submitted (out of hundreds) has been implemented. It definately impacts my 5HGZ performance as I live in a very congested 5GHZ area which means even when I'm only 20 feets from the main Orbi router my iPhone keeps switching to 2.4GHZ signal as it can't lock onto the 5GHZ from the Orbi as too many other signals near by! Which defeats the object of having mesh network as I get worse speeds near the router than I would with my old Apple Airport Extreme!

Orbi uses 80 MHz channel width on 5 GHz. There are only two non-overlapping non-DFS 80 MHz channels in the 5 GHz band. Orbi uses one for the backhaul and the other for client data. Unless you allow DFS, which it seems no NETGEAR routers do, there isn't really anything left to tweak. NETGEAR could allow you to choose to use 40 MHz or 20 MHz channel width, but the throughput would be 1/2 or 1/4 and people would then complain about slow speeds.

I love discussions like this. Some people think Netgear has not implemented DFS in any routers; others assert their routers are exhibiting DFS behavior. (If ONLY Netgear engineers browsed the forums!) Perhaps once they know where the router is located, they adjust frequencies to match? I am puzzled by ekhalil's comment that his router "changes backhaul frequencies" more often than his satellite. I had thought that the router and satellite have to be on the same frequency to communicate. So, if they change frequency, they would have to change together. My WiFi Analyzer app shows an ARRIS on channel 132 somewhere nearby. I don't know how that squares with Netgear restricting itself and competing with all the other 5G devices.

Chuck_M wrote: So "turning off daisy chain"... depending on who you talk to, you get "Tribal Knowledge" input that perhaps the setting is backwards on the configuration screen. (e.g. checked is actually off) What is the authoritative way of ensuring daisy chain is turned off? (Is there something you can monitor to see the intended effect was made? Thanks! Great discussions! Please tick off Daisy Chain in the Advanced Wireless settings to disable Daisy Chain. You can check that Daisy Chain is disabled by making a wifi scan. You should only see one "hidden" network (network with no SSID) using one of the upper 5 GHz channells with the MAC address of the Router. If Daisy Chain is enabled you will see one hidden network for every Satellite as well, with the respective MAC addresses of every satellite.

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Vorhilion
Guide
Mar 28, 2018
I just saw this topic. Someone explains the limitations are also due to DFS.
It can be an answer, but then why? Since DFS is relevant for outdoor access points, not indoor.
SimonGT007
Guide
Sep 20, 2018
Hi

I agree with all the points in this thread and submitted an idea to Negear to address this major product flaw. See https://community.netgear.com/t5/Idea-Exchange-For-Home/Please-provide-more-5GHZ-wifi-channel-options-restricting-to/idc-p/1641642#M1785

Please give it Kudos and try and get Negtgear to look at it as it's not even been reviewed yet - Negear keeping asking for product feedback but very very slow in even responding to ideas and so far only 1 idea submitted (out of hundreds) has been implemented.

It definately impacts my 5HGZ performance as I live in a very congested 5GHZ area which means even when I'm only 20 feets from the main Orbi router my iPhone keeps switching to 2.4GHZ signal as it can't lock onto the 5GHZ from the Orbi as too many other signals near by! Which defeats the object of having mesh network as I get worse speeds near the router than I would with my old Apple Airport Extreme!
- SimonGT007
  Guide
  Sep 20, 2018
  Follow on from my last post - looks like we need at least 179 kudos points to get this to the top of the idea list. So please if you see this thread and agree this is any issue worth fixing just click on Kudos. Personally I think there are much more marginal improvements on the idea list that would only benefit a small proportion of users, but fixing this issue would improve the product perfoirmance for everyone that lives in an urban area with congested 5GHZ usage.
  
  Thanks for your support!
- BrutusNL
  Aspirant
  Dec 20, 2018
  Kudoed (is that even a word *grin*) and hope this gets a lot more attention, especially from Netgear.
  - FURRYe38
    Guru
    Dec 20, 2018
    Please feel free to post about this here:
    
    https://community.netgear.com/t5/Idea-Exchange-For-Home/idb-p/idea-exchange-for-home
    
    Good Luck.
    
    BrutusNL wrote:
    
    Kudoed (is that even a word *grin*) and hope this gets a lot more attention, especially from Netgear.

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