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ATT fiber BGW210 and costco RBR50 RBS50
Hi, I've read through several of the forum posts and I think I have everything working, but I can't get into orbilogin.com. I followed these instructions. 1) I have a cable from one of the yello...
It is almost never a good idea to have two routers back to back (Google "Double-NAT"). Because the BGW is used only for internet (no TV, no telephone service), it looks to like you have two choices:
- Unplug the BGW and use the Orbi instead of it. (Move everything from the BGW LAN ports to the Orbi LAN ports)
- Keep the BGW in its normal mode and install the Orbi in Access Point (AP) mode.
I believe that "Passthrough" will only work if the Orbi is the only thing connected to the BGW.
The first thing I would do is restore the BGW to its original state and verify that "everything works as before."
Factory reset the Orbi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMw4ePACgc4
At this point, choose which path to take: replace the BGW or Orbi in LAN mode. My biggest consideration would be how much effort have I put into customizing the BGW. Have I assigned IP addresses to a lot of devices and do not want to go through that all over again?
- Yes. Then pick AP mode.
- No. Then it won't hurt to try replacing. (The BGW can always be plugged back in.)
To replace, unplug the BGW. Move everything from the BGW LAN ports to the Orbi LAN ports. Move the ethernet cable from the BGW RED (WAN) port to the Orbi YELLOW (WAN) port. Power on the Orbi and go through the setup. If something "goes wrong", then simply unplug the Orgi, move everything back to the BGW, and plug the BGW back in.
The AP option involves these steps:
- Plug the Orbi into the BGW.
- Learn the IP address asssigned to the Orbi.
- Use any web browser connected to the network to reach the Orbi web interface: http://<ip of Orbi>. The login will be "admin" and "password" (because it was reset to factory).
- Navigate to the Advanced Tab, Advanced Setup, Router / AP mode.
- Select AP Mode, Apply, and the Orbi will reset. (takes foreeeeeever).
- At this point, you can do the Orbi Wireless Setup and give it the exact same WiFi/password credentials as the BGW.
- Go back to the BGW and disable WiFi.
I forgot to mention that I'm running FW v2.3.5.30
Some other questions that might arise. The AT&T service is used for internet only. The BGW-210 is connected to the red ONT port. Nothing is connected on the RBR50 or RBS50 ports besides the Internet port on the RBR50 connected to the BGW. I have several devices connected to the BGW. Port 1 is connected to a 4-port netgear prosafe switch with a PC and an iMac. Port 2 is connected to an 8-port netgear prosafe switch with Apple TV, Samsung TV, AV receiver. Port 3 is connected to my Arlo base station. Port 4 is connected to the RBR50. There are too many wifi devices to list, but everything seems to be working. I just can't log into the RBR50. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
It is almost never a good idea to have two routers back to back (Google "Double-NAT"). Because the BGW is used only for internet (no TV, no telephone service), it looks to like you have two choices:
- Unplug the BGW and use the Orbi instead of it. (Move everything from the BGW LAN ports to the Orbi LAN ports)
- Keep the BGW in its normal mode and install the Orbi in Access Point (AP) mode.
I believe that "Passthrough" will only work if the Orbi is the only thing connected to the BGW.
The first thing I would do is restore the BGW to its original state and verify that "everything works as before."
Factory reset the Orbi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMw4ePACgc4
At this point, choose which path to take: replace the BGW or Orbi in LAN mode. My biggest consideration would be how much effort have I put into customizing the BGW. Have I assigned IP addresses to a lot of devices and do not want to go through that all over again?
- Yes. Then pick AP mode.
- No. Then it won't hurt to try replacing. (The BGW can always be plugged back in.)
To replace, unplug the BGW. Move everything from the BGW LAN ports to the Orbi LAN ports. Move the ethernet cable from the BGW RED (WAN) port to the Orbi YELLOW (WAN) port. Power on the Orbi and go through the setup. If something "goes wrong", then simply unplug the Orgi, move everything back to the BGW, and plug the BGW back in.
The AP option involves these steps:
- Plug the Orbi into the BGW.
- Learn the IP address asssigned to the Orbi.
- Use any web browser connected to the network to reach the Orbi web interface: http://<ip of Orbi>. The login will be "admin" and "password" (because it was reset to factory).
- Navigate to the Advanced Tab, Advanced Setup, Router / AP mode.
- Select AP Mode, Apply, and the Orbi will reset. (takes foreeeeeever).
- At this point, you can do the Orbi Wireless Setup and give it the exact same WiFi/password credentials as the BGW.
- Go back to the BGW and disable WiFi.
Thank you CrimpOn! I tried and can't replace the BGW210 with the Orbi because the BGW210 is a modem/router, while the Orbi is just a router and I need the BGW for the modem. So I started from scratch and and unplugged and resetted everything. Plugging in only the Orbi to the BGW for IP passthrough. After I setup the Orbi and then plugged my PC into the Orbi directly, I was able to to finally log into orbilogin.com. Turns out after I logged into orbilogin that I didn't need to change anything because the Orbi defaults at getting the IP dynamically and DNS automatically. Everything seems to be working so I'm not sure if I need to do anything else. Is my BGW setup now as only a modem with IP passthrough and wifi turned off? Or do I need to go into the 'Firewall' tab and then 'Packet Filter' to disable Packet Filters to turn off the routing function of the BGW? Does it matter since the Orbi is the only thing plugged into the BGW?