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KegSed
Mar 04, 2019Aspirant
ORBI Network setup planning
There is obviously a very active community here and with the wealth of (mis)information on the internet, I'd rather just see if I could pick ya'lls brain a bit.
My house is almost done being built. 4K sq ft. and I've wired most of the rooms with CAT6 all running to a central location. I'm going to sign up for ATT Fiber 1GB when we move in. Here's what I'm planning and I could use any feedback and pitfalls to watch for if possible:
Put the ATT modem in bridge mode and use the ORBI RBK50 as my router.
I want to hardwire a 16 port non-manged switch to the router and hook all CAT6 lines that run to other rooms in the switch.
I want to hardware the two ORBI satellites to the main RBK50 router for wired backhaul.
I will (eventually) have quite a few wireless lights, cameras, etc hooked to the WiFi that I will want to access remotely if necessary.
In some of the rooms with multiple devices, I might use a smaller non-managed switch to hook them up which will be routed via the CAT6 mentioned before to the other non-managed switch which will be hooked to the RBK50.
Does any of the above seem unreasonable or have any potential issues?
I've read as much as I can and I like the speed of the ORBI systems but have read multiple issues about upgrading firmwares and dropped networks so I'm trying to plan out as best I can.
It's also possible that I suck it up with the ATT router for a couple of months until the newer ORBI WiFi6 system is released. My assumption (I know I know) is that it will function similar to teh RBK50 so any potential issues with the system now will reflect in the future system.
I really appreciate anyone who answer's time and effort on a response.
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Make sure the non managed switch(es) are also non green ethernet. Seen others report problems with Orib using these switches with this feature.
Sounds like a nice plan.
0 feet is recommended in between them to base router and satellite(s) with depending upon building materials.
Avoid modem router combo units if possible:
This would be a double NAT condition which isn't recommended. Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router. https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktopBeen issues surrounding ATT modem router combo units as well:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Installing-Orbi-behind-ATT-Pace-5268AC-gateway/td-p/1234191
Modem FW may have broke good speeds between the modem and Orbi in router mode:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/RBK50-Speed-Throttling-Wired-and-Wireless/td-p/1673291/jump-to/first-unread-message
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-I-fixed-our-intermittent-internet-connectivity-problems-with/td-p/1688722/jump-to/first-unread-message
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-RBR50-Slow-Wired-WAN-after-2-2-1-210-Upgrade/m-p/1676934/highlight/true#M47457
KegSed wrote:
There is obviously a very active community here and with the wealth of information on the internet, I'd rather just see if I could pick ya'lls brain a bit.
My house is almost done being built. 4K sq ft. and I've wired most of the rooms with CAT6 all running to a central location. I'm going to sign up for ATT Fiber 1GB when we move in. Here's what I'm planning and I could use any feedback and pitfalls to watch for if possible:
Put the ATT modem in bridge mode and use the ORBI RBK50 as my router.
I want to hardwire a 16 port non-manged switch to the router and hook all CAT6 lines that run to other rooms in the switch.
I want to hardware the two ORBI satellites to the main RBK50 router for wired backhaul.
I will (eventually) have quite a few wireless lights, cameras, etc hooked to the WiFi that I will want to access remotely if necessary.
In some of the rooms with multiple devices, I might use a smaller non-managed switch to hook them up which will be routed via the CAT6 mentioned before to the other non-managed switch which will be hooked to the RBK50.
Does any of the above seem unreasonable or have any potential issues?
I've read as much as I can and I like the speed of the ORBI systems but have read multiple issues about upgrading firmwares and dropped networks so I'm trying to plan out as best I can.
It's also possible that I suck it up with the ATT router for a couple of months until the newer ORBI WiFi6 system is released. My assumption (I know I know) is that it will function similar to teh RBK50 so any potential issues with the system now will reflect in the future system.
I really appreciate anyone who answer's time and effort on a response.
- KegSedAspirant
Thanks for the really prompt response!
I'll be on the lookout for what router/modem ATT gives me. Seems the PACE version has the most issues, but won't know what they will give me until I sign up. Maybe I can ask them in advance to see what they plan on providing.
The switches I've got picked out are all non-green ethernet as far as I can tell but thanks for the heads up there!
Hopefully all will work well for you. Come back and share your experiences with us when you get it all setup.
KegSed wrote:
Thanks for the really prompt response!
I'll be on the lookout for what router/modem ATT gives me. Seems the PACE version has the most issues, but won't know what they will give me until I sign up. Maybe I can ask them in advance to see what they plan on providing.
The switches I've got picked out are all non-green ethernet as far as I can tell but thanks for the heads up there!
FURRYe38 wrote:
Avoid modem router combo units if possible:
Spot on there.
I would add a caution against using a modem/router in modem only mode.
I did that and whenever there was a power cut, the network got its knickers in a twist on reboot.
The modem took too long to start. The router beat it to it and was looking for the Internet connection before the modem was ready. It timed out and the rest of the network with an Internet free zone.
I eliminated the problem by buying an inexpensive modem-only box. A DM200 for my VDSL.
- gr8shoVirtuoso
michaelkenward wrote
Spot on there.
I would add a caution against using a modem/router in modem only mode.
AT&T doesn't have a modem, or gateway only device, neither for VDSL2 nor for fiber. They also do not support 3rd party routers connected to the ONT on fiber installs. The wireless radios can be turned off which is how I run my gateway .
KegSed when the install happens, the Arris BGW210-700 would be the best choice for gateway. Once you have the gateway , the DMZ function is called IP passthrough and is located in the firewall section of the management console . I posted a screenshot in this forum of what the settings look like. AT&T support forums use the same forum software as here and is decent if you need help with their stuff.