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Hi everyone,
I would like to ask some questions:
1. if there will be an issue by using the ff configurations.
Modem Router : Huawei 659 >>> IP Address : 192.168.1.1
Additional Router : Orbi + Satellites (3units) >>> 192.168.10.1
I actually have an internet connection with these configurations, but the question is, when I'm connected to Huawei Modem Router via Wifi, then I will transfer to another location and get the signal of orbi, will I get disconnected and reconnects again?
2. Can I cable connect the satellite to huawei? both in LAN ports. because the satellite in ground floor cannot received signal from the orbi router or other satellites from 2nd floor.
3. Can I pair the satelletite with a traditional range extenders? Like Belkin Range Extender.
Thank you in advanced.
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@xThink wrote:
please check if this is correct :
Huawei Mode Router : 192.168.1.1 (Bridged Mode)
Orbi Router : 192.168.1.2 (Access Point Mode)
No, this is wrong. Now you have no device acting as your router. You can EITHER have
-
Huawei: 192.168.1.1 (Router Mode, handling DHCP, NAT, DNS, etc., but **NOT** wifi)
Orbi Router: 192.168.1.2 (Access Point Mode, handling wifi ONLY)
**OR** -
Huawei: (Bridged Mode) (for practical purposes, all it will do is act as an adapter to connect your Orbi router to the satellite dish, converting from what I assume is a coaxial cable coming indoors from the dish, to an ethernet cable to go to the Orbi router, and it will not handle any routing functions at all, and may not even have an IP address)
Orbi Router: 192.168.1.1 (Router Mode, handling DHCP, NAT, DNS, and wifi)
One of them MUST be enabled as a router. Ideally, exactly one of them. Two MAY work, but will probably give you a lot of trouble, and zero definitely will NOT work (bridge mode and access point mode are basically the same, except by different names, and it will not work if both the Huawei and Orbi are in bridge mode/access point mode).
Which router do I have to turn off the DHCP?
Whichever device is in router mode should have DHCP enabled. This will probably be the default anyway, since your Huawei in bridge mode will probably disable the DHCP feature on the Huawei, and putting the Orbi in access point mode will disable the DHCP feature on the Orbi.
Since I cannot run a cable from Orbi Router going to one of the satellites
As for not being able to run a cable from the Orbi router to the Orbi satellite, do you not already have the Orbi router next to your Huawei modem? Or are you already running a long cable from the Huawei to the Orbi router as it is? Perhaps you should consider putting the Orbi router next to the Huawei modem, putting the Huawei in bridge mode (scenario 2 above), and then running the cable from the Orbi router to the Orb satellite? I assume your other two Orbi satellites are able to connect wirelessly to the Orbi router? If you enable daisy chain, it's also possible to connect one Orbi satellite to another Orbi satellite (I think either over wifi or ethernet cable, though I'm not certain), which may help you reach the one Orbi satellite that's too far away from the Orbi router to connect wirelessly.
There is also an option for connecting the Orbi router to the Huawei modem's DMZ, but I'll say that's probably your last choice,
and @FURRYe38 can help you if you need to go with that option.
With this configuration, mobile devices won't reconnect when changing connections from wifi signals?
If you enable wifi **ONLY** on your Orbi, and disable wifi on the Huawei, then you should have no trouble with devices moving around and connecting to an Orbi device and maintaining a connection.
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Re: Orbi Router Configuration
1. I think it's probably not ideal, but that it should work. There may be issues with the Huawei mdoem and the Orbi both using the same SSID, but I'm not sure. I think you won't get a smooth hand-off the way you should when switching from one Orbi unit to another.
2. I don't think so. The Orbi can have a wired, ethernet, backhaul, but by connecting the Orbi satellite to the Huawei, you would be putting it on the same IP net as the Huawei, and not the Orbi router. It won't talk to the Orbi router, and won't get the configuration. Not 100% sure on this, but, again, probably not ideal. Should be fine if you're able to run a cable from the Orbi satellite to the Orbi router, though.
3. Yes.
You'd probably be better off either putting the Huawei in bridge mode, and using the Orbi as your router, and then connecting everything to the Orbi router (such as your satellite that needs a wired connection), or using the Huawei as your router but putting the Orbi in access point mode.
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Thank you for your reply Sir. Maybe that's the issue, mobile devices is changing from 192.168.1.x to 192.168.10.x and vice versa.
Since I cannot run a cable from Orbi Router going to one of the satellites, I really need to change the configurations of my routers. please check if this is correct :
Huawei Mode Router : 192.168.1.1 (Bridged Mode)
Orbi Router : 192.168.1.2 (Access Point Mode)
Which router do I have to turn off the DHCP?
With this configuration, mobile devices won't reconnect when changing connections from wifi signals?
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Re: Orbi Router Configuration
Modem Combo Units:
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge mode. This will disable DHCP on the modem/router. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. This will leave DHCP enabled and thats ok if you use the DMZ. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router.
@xThink wrote:
Thank you for your reply Sir. Maybe that's the issue, mobile devices is changing from 192.168.1.x to 192.168.10.x and vice versa.
Since I cannot run a cable from Orbi Router going to one of the satellites, I really need to change the configurations of my routers. please check if this is correct :
Huawei Mode Router : 192.168.1.1 (Bridged Mode)
Orbi Router : 192.168.1.2 (Access Point Mode)
Which router do I have to turn off the DHCP?
With this configuration, mobile devices won't reconnect when changing connections from wifi signals?
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@xThink wrote:
please check if this is correct :
Huawei Mode Router : 192.168.1.1 (Bridged Mode)
Orbi Router : 192.168.1.2 (Access Point Mode)
No, this is wrong. Now you have no device acting as your router. You can EITHER have
-
Huawei: 192.168.1.1 (Router Mode, handling DHCP, NAT, DNS, etc., but **NOT** wifi)
Orbi Router: 192.168.1.2 (Access Point Mode, handling wifi ONLY)
**OR** -
Huawei: (Bridged Mode) (for practical purposes, all it will do is act as an adapter to connect your Orbi router to the satellite dish, converting from what I assume is a coaxial cable coming indoors from the dish, to an ethernet cable to go to the Orbi router, and it will not handle any routing functions at all, and may not even have an IP address)
Orbi Router: 192.168.1.1 (Router Mode, handling DHCP, NAT, DNS, and wifi)
One of them MUST be enabled as a router. Ideally, exactly one of them. Two MAY work, but will probably give you a lot of trouble, and zero definitely will NOT work (bridge mode and access point mode are basically the same, except by different names, and it will not work if both the Huawei and Orbi are in bridge mode/access point mode).
Which router do I have to turn off the DHCP?
Whichever device is in router mode should have DHCP enabled. This will probably be the default anyway, since your Huawei in bridge mode will probably disable the DHCP feature on the Huawei, and putting the Orbi in access point mode will disable the DHCP feature on the Orbi.
Since I cannot run a cable from Orbi Router going to one of the satellites
As for not being able to run a cable from the Orbi router to the Orbi satellite, do you not already have the Orbi router next to your Huawei modem? Or are you already running a long cable from the Huawei to the Orbi router as it is? Perhaps you should consider putting the Orbi router next to the Huawei modem, putting the Huawei in bridge mode (scenario 2 above), and then running the cable from the Orbi router to the Orb satellite? I assume your other two Orbi satellites are able to connect wirelessly to the Orbi router? If you enable daisy chain, it's also possible to connect one Orbi satellite to another Orbi satellite (I think either over wifi or ethernet cable, though I'm not certain), which may help you reach the one Orbi satellite that's too far away from the Orbi router to connect wirelessly.
There is also an option for connecting the Orbi router to the Huawei modem's DMZ, but I'll say that's probably your last choice,
and @FURRYe38 can help you if you need to go with that option.
With this configuration, mobile devices won't reconnect when changing connections from wifi signals?
If you enable wifi **ONLY** on your Orbi, and disable wifi on the Huawei, then you should have no trouble with devices moving around and connecting to an Orbi device and maintaining a connection.
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Thank you. looks like number 3 is the easiest and faster way. I'll check with number 1 if I can do that together with ISP support.
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@randomousity wrote:
@xThink wrote:
please check if this is correct :
Huawei Mode Router : 192.168.1.1 (Bridged Mode)
Orbi Router : 192.168.1.2 (Access Point Mode)
No, this is wrong. Now you have no device acting as your router. You can EITHER have
Huawei: 192.168.1.1 (Router Mode, handling DHCP, NAT, DNS, etc., but **NOT** wifi)
Orbi Router: 192.168.1.2 (Access Point Mode, handling wifi ONLY)
**OR**Huawei: (Bridged Mode) (for practical purposes, all it will do is act as an adapter to connect your Orbi router to the satellite dish, converting from what I assume is a coaxial cable coming indoors from the dish, to an ethernet cable to go to the Orbi router, and it will not handle any routing functions at all, and may not even have an IP address)
Orbi Router: 192.168.1.1 (Router Mode, handling DHCP, NAT, DNS, and wifi)
One of them MUST be enabled as a router. Ideally, exactly one of them. Two MAY work, but will probably give you a lot of trouble, and zero definitely will NOT work (bridge mode and access point mode are basically the same, except by different names, and it will not work if both the Huawei and Orbi are in bridge mode/access point mode).
Which router do I have to turn off the DHCP?Whichever device is in router mode should have DHCP enabled. This will probably be the default anyway, since your Huawei in bridge mode will probably disable the DHCP feature on the Huawei, and putting the Orbi in access point mode will disable the DHCP feature on the Orbi.
Since I cannot run a cable from Orbi Router going to one of the satellites
As for not being able to run a cable from the Orbi router to the Orbi satellite, do you not already have the Orbi router next to your Huawei modem? Or are you already running a long cable from the Huawei to the Orbi router as it is? Perhaps you should consider putting the Orbi router next to the Huawei modem, putting the Huawei in bridge mode (scenario 2 above), and then running the cable from the Orbi router to the Orb satellite? I assume your other two Orbi satellites are able to connect wirelessly to the Orbi router? If you enable daisy chain, it's also possible to connect one Orbi satellite to another Orbi satellite (I think either over wifi or ethernet cable, though I'm not certain), which may help you reach the one Orbi satellite that's too far away from the Orbi router to connect wirelessly.
There is also an option for connecting the Orbi router to the Huawei modem's DMZ, but I'll say that's probably your last choice,
and @FURRYe38 can help you if you need to go with that option.
With this configuration, mobile devices won't reconnect when changing connections from wifi signals?If you enable wifi **ONLY** on your Orbi, and disable wifi on the Huawei, then you should have no trouble with devices moving around and connecting to an Orbi device and maintaining a connection.
Thank you randomousity!
Why I didn't think of that setup, I should have exchanged places of orbi router and satellite.
But what is Daisy Chain? is it an Orbi Feature I need to enable? What if I didn't enabled it, one satellite will not give internet connection to the other satellite? Sorry I'm confused.
Maybe tomorrow or day after tomorrow, I can try with the setup. I will let you know what will happen.
Thank you.
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Hi Furry,
I just did it yesterday together with the technical support of the ISP provider.
As per the tech guy, the modem/router is not capable of bridged mode (but I don't really believed it), and did not checked because I only have a very limited time to stay in that house, so what I just did was, I turned off the wlan of modem/router, then connect the orbi router via cable to modem/router. So now I'm having only one IP Range, which is 192.168.10.x.
and actually, the housemaid complained to me that they got disconnected when moving from one place to another, confessed that the previous configuration was working fine, no problem at all, the problem they are having was in their room outside the house, and the signal they get is from the range extender, that is already old.
But still, thank you guys, because of this false issue, I learned new things.
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Ok, just checking on ya. Use what works best for you and the system.
Good Luck.
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