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Davisro
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Oct 28, 2020
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Solution for ORBI RBK50 constant disconnects

Hi. I thought I'd add a solution to a problem I've been having with my Costco ORBI RBR50 wireless router with two satellites. 

I see so many people complaining about this problem and Ive struggled with it for so long that I wanted to help any poor soul who is experienceing this problem and not getting help from the forums or Netgear support.

 

I've recently been experiencing constant but brief WIFI disconnects once every hour or so and was having difficulty staying connected to my work VPN

1. I'd had this problem two years ago when I first bought this Orbi. Back then I separated my 2.4ghz and 5ghz radios using the Telnet method here https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/td-p/1396594 and my ORBI was stable for two years. But recently a firmware update merged my 2.4 and 5.0 ghz signals back together on one ssid without me even realizing it. I thought this must be the reason i my signal was now unstable

2. Just to quantify the number and length of the disconnects, I installed the Internet Connection Monitor add-in on Google Chrome on my home PC and left it open while I was working on my work laptop. As soon as i'd get disconnected from my VPN at work, I'd check the Internet Connection Monitor logs on my home PC and could see that my wifi had been knocked offline for a few seconds.

3 I called my ISP and asked them to check my Xfinity Gateway to see if the problem was on their end. They told me their router looked good and showed no indication of going off line. They recommended I check my WIFI.

4. I measured the distance from my ORBI Base unit to my closest Satellite and found thay are 70 feet apart. I theorized that maybe the signal was not strong enough across that distance to be stable between them.

5. I tried many things. I took my second satellite from upstairs and put it between the router and my first satellite to have less distance between them. Still unstable. I disabled Daidy Chain, MIMO, and all the options people talk about in the forums. Still unstable.

6. After much panic and research, I was about to toss the Orbi, but i then started reading that other Mesh systems have the exact same problem. Then I saw this video on how to connect a wired backhaul between the Orbi Satellites and Router.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ln0-2NW-JU&ab_channel=Rick%27sTechTalkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ln0-2NW-JU&ab_channel=Rick%27sTechTalk 

7. So i purchased a 75 foot patch cable from Monoprice for 20 bucks and this worked very nicely. My internet speeds at the Orbi satellite (where my work laptop is connected) doubled instantly, from 150mbps to 300mbps (which is the speed I pay for from my ISP). The signal is more stable as well. I'm really happy with this solution!!! Its so much better

NOTE: In the video he talks about adding a wired backhaul in AP Mode, but I did it in Router Mode. No problem.

 

  • Good to hear. Glad that worked. I would do a backup configuration to file for safe keeping. 

     

    Mark your thread as solved so other will know. 

    Enjoy. :smileywink:

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  • next day...never mind. still experiencing disconnects. I was all excited. This is NOT a solution. It does improve signal strength but not stability

    • wimmme's avatar
      wimmme
      Tutor

      I had this too, beginning to notice this since march when we had to work from home  all the time due to CoviD-19.

      I had a Cisco VPN disconnect exactly every hour ! It was driving me nuts !!!

      Since i am on firmware V2.5.2.4 and disabled DoS logging in the advanced options I don't have this anymore ! 

  • What Firmware version is currently loaded?
    What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?
    Is the Orbi system operating in Router or AP mode?

    What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
    What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet or more is recommended in between RBR and RBS to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected.
    https://kb.netgear.com/31029/Where-should-I-place-my-Orbi-satellite


    What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
    Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?

    Try enabling Beamforming and MIMO(MIMO may or may not be needed) and WMM. Under Advanced Tab/Advanced Settings/Wireless Settings

    Try disabling the following and see:
    Armor, Circle, Daisy Chain, Fast Roaming, IPv6 and Set 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only. Set Short preamble instead of Long preamble modes. Save settings and reboot the router and satellite(s).

     

    One User Experience/Configuration:
    https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Most-Stable-Orbi-Configuration/m-p/1941087/highlight/true#M97026


    Davisro wrote:

    Hi. I thought I'd add a solution to a problem I've been having with my Costco ORBI RBR50 wireless router with two satellites. 

    I see so many people complaining about this problem and Ive struggled with it for so long that I wanted to help any poor soul who is experienceing this problem and not getting help from the forums or Netgear support.

     

    I've recently been experiencing constant but brief WIFI disconnects once every hour or so and was having difficulty staying connected to my work VPN

    1. I'd had this problem two years ago when I first bought this Orbi. Back then I separated my 2.4ghz and 5ghz radios using the Telnet method here https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/td-p/1396594 and my ORBI was stable for two years. But recently a firmware update merged my 2.4 and 5.0 ghz signals back together on one ssid without me even realizing it. I thought this must be the reason i my signal was now unstable

    2. Just to quantify the number and length of the disconnects, I installed the Internet Connection Monitor add-in on Google Chrome on my home PC and left it open while I was working on my work laptop. As soon as i'd get disconnected from my VPN at work, I'd check the Internet Connection Monitor logs on my home PC and could see that my wifi had been knocked offline for a few seconds.

    3 I called my ISP and asked them to check my Xfinity Gateway to see if the problem was on their end. They told me their router looked good and showed no indication of going off line. They recommended I check my WIFI.

    4. I measured the distance from my ORBI Base unit to my closest Satellite and found thay are 70 feet apart. I theorized that maybe the signal was not strong enough across that distance to be stable between them.

    5. I tried many things. I took my second satellite from upstairs and put it between the router and my first satellite to have less distance between them. Still unstable. I disabled Daidy Chain, MIMO, and all the options people talk about in the forums. Still unstable.

    6. After much panic and research, I was about to toss the Orbi, but i then started reading that other Mesh systems have the exact same problem. Then I saw this video on how to connect a wired backhaul between the Orbi Satellites and Router.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ln0-2NW-JU&ab_channel=Rick%27sTechTalkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ln0-2NW-JU&ab_channel=Rick%27sTechTalk 

    7. So i purchased a 75 foot patch cable from Monoprice for 20 bucks and this worked very nicely. My internet speeds at the Orbi satellite (where my work laptop is connected) doubled instantly, from 150mbps to 300mbps (which is the speed I pay for from my ISP). The signal is more stable as well. I'm really happy with this solution!!! Its so much better

    NOTE: In the video he talks about adding a wired backhaul in AP Mode, but I did it in Router Mode. No problem.

     


     

    • Davisro's avatar
      Davisro
      Tutor

      Thanks for responding Furry

       

      Firmware: 2.5.2.4

      Did a factory reset yesterday

      Comcast Xfinity Xfi Gateway TG3482ER3 in Bridge Mode

      Orbi is in Router mode.

      **just so you know...I ran my 75 ft patch cable between my work laptop directly into the ORBI base unit instead of wired into the satellite. No change. Signal still drops

      -Home is 3500 Sq Ft. The cable from Comcast is coming into a back room on fl1. I have Orbi router there. Satellite 1 is 70 ft and four rooms away. I have wifi neighbors but live in free standing home. I see one or two networks in range

      "Armor, Circle, Daisy Chain, Fast Roaming, IPv6 and Set 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only. Set Short preamble instead of Long preamble modes."

      -Armor is disabled

      -Circle I use, and pay for, but after the factory rese yesterday its not activated

      -Daisy Chain is enabled. Ive had daisy chain on and off. doesnt seem to matter

      -Fast Roaming is disabled

      -IPV6 is disabled

      -20/40 coexistence only allows Enable or Disable. There's no ability to choose 20 or 40. I have it disabled

      -2.4 is on Auto. switching to 1

      -MIMO is disabled...enabling

      -Preamble was on Auto. Changing to Short

       

       

       

      • FURRYe38's avatar
        FURRYe38
        Guru

        Has a power off for 1 minute then back on been performed since last update? If this still fails , factory reset and setup from scratch.

         

        ALso there is newer FW just out which you can try:

        https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/RBR50-RBS50-Firmware-Version-2-6-1-40/m-p/1997895/highlight/true#M105941

         

        Not sure if this would be helpful or not. If nothing seems to fix your problem, I would revert back to v16:

        https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/RBR50-RBS50-Firmware-2-5-1-16-Update/m-p/1897955/highlight/true#M89460


        Davisro wrote:

        Thanks for responding Furry

         

        Firmware: 2.5.2.4

        Did a factory reset yesterday

        Comcast Xfinity Xfi Gateway TG3482ER3 in Bridge Mode

        Orbi is in Router mode.

        **just so you know...I ran my 75 ft patch cable between my work laptop directly into the ORBI base unit instead of wired into the satellite. No change. Signal still drops

        -Home is 3500 Sq Ft. The cable from Comcast is coming into a back room on fl1. I have Orbi router there. Satellite 1 is 70 ft and four rooms away. I have wifi neighbors but live in free standing home. I see one or two networks in range

        "Armor, Circle, Daisy Chain, Fast Roaming, IPv6 and Set 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only. Set Short preamble instead of Long preamble modes."

        -Armor is disabled

        -Circle I use, and pay for, but after the factory rese yesterday its not activated

        -Daisy Chain is enabled. Ive had daisy chain on and off. doesnt seem to matter

        -Fast Roaming is disabled

        -IPV6 is disabled

        -20/40 coexistence only allows Enable or Disable. There's no ability to choose 20 or 40. I have it disabled

        -2.4 is on Auto. switching to 1

        -MIMO is disabled...enabling

        -Preamble was on Auto. Changing to Short