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ecniVgiB
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Dec 10, 2020
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devices not connecting

Hi fellow forumers.

 

I'm a mess! I'm sad, angry, frustrated and close to separating from my Orbi.

Here is my story...

 

For a long time my Orbi RBR50 and my two satellites have been working great! Apart from some hiccups in early firmware, things have stabilised and everything seemed to work well. I have over 100 devices (smart home and a device addicted family of 5) for which most I had assigned an IP address. Both my satellites are ethernet backhauled to the router (one directly, one daisychained of the other).

 

Along came firmware 2.6.1.40 and updating was without issues.

 

Summary: happy days and long live the Orbi

But then...

 

I started getting "400 Bad Request" messages on the screen, which meant I was no longer able to assign IP addresses for some new smart fans (hoorah for summer!) or do anything else. Confused about the error I started digging in the forums. Inevitably, I had to factory reset the router. No problem, just not looking forward to the work, so I postponed it. Next I started running into problems adding new smart devices: they could no longer be added. Thinking about the "400 error", I decided to factory reset and start from scratch. No problem and I held off assigning IP addresses. I kept the name and password the same in the new setup, as well and the LAN config (I don't like using 192.168.1.1 for my router). 

 

Summary: factory reset to solve the "400 Bad request" error

But then...

 

The router started to operated weird:

- hardwired devices started dropping the IP and kept refreshing the DHCP

- still wasnt able to add new devices

- some previously working devices would not connect

- hardwiring the satellites did NOT work: the light would be magenta and there was no connection

- the router started to reboot at random

- switches in the network seem to work but cannot be found in the list of devices (smart switches with an IP address)

- LAN devices seem to work but drop the IP occasionally

 

It is now to the point that when I disconnect a device that is working on the network, I can no longer connect it afterward (e.g. Nest Protect removed from the system while it was working cannot be added through its app).

 

Summary: confusing, frustration and a very unreliable mesh system

 

I have performed another hard reset and renamed the router something different, trying to add WiFi devices (LAN devices seem to work) which worked for some but for most: no go. Hardwiring a satellite still gives a lot of problems (I ran a ping to a WiFi backhauled satellite on a computer wired to the router without issues; the moment I plugged in the backhaul cable - this was a brand new cable - ping started dropping packets).

 

I know this is a long story, but anyone have any idea what is happening here???

 

Eternal gratitude becomes you... Vince

 

  • "The ONLY issue I have is that I can’t go to access control. It seems turned off on the page while every other page tells me it’s set to access allowed. It’s just useful to see which devices have connected in case something is trying to jump on my network."

     

    When you have Circle enabled, access control is not enabled. 

     

    Glad you got it all working. Please mark yoru thread as solved so others will know. 

     

    Enjoy. :smileywink:

12 Replies

  • Has a power off for 1 minute then back ON with the ISP modem and Orbi system been performed since last update?
    Has a factory reset and setup from scratch been performed since last FW update? 


    ecniVgiB wrote:

    Hi fellow forumers.

     

    I'm a mess! I'm sad, angry, frustrated and close to separating from my Orbi.

    Here is my story...

     

    For a long time my Orbi RBR50 and my two satellites have been working great! Apart from some hiccups in early firmware, things have stabilised and everything seemed to work well. I have over 100 devices (smart home and a device addicted family of 5) for which most I had assigned an IP address. Both my satellites are ethernet backhauled to the router (one directly, one daisychained of the other).

     

    Along came firmware 2.6.1.40 and updating was without issues.

     

    Summary: happy days and long live the Orbi

    But then...

     

    I started getting "400 Bad Request" messages on the screen, which meant I was no longer able to assign IP addresses for some new smart fans (hoorah for summer!) or do anything else. Confused about the error I started digging in the forums. Inevitably, I had to factory reset the router. No problem, just not looking forward to the work, so I postponed it. Next I started running into problems adding new smart devices: they could no longer be added. Thinking about the "400 error", I decided to factory reset and start from scratch. No problem and I held off assigning IP addresses. I kept the name and password the same in the new setup, as well and the LAN config (I don't like using 192.168.1.1 for my router). 

     

    Summary: factory reset to solve the "400 Bad request" error

    But then...

     

    The router started to operated weird:

    - hardwired devices started dropping the IP and kept refreshing the DHCP

    - still wasnt able to add new devices

    - some previously working devices would not connect

    - hardwiring the satellites did NOT work: the light would be magenta and there was no connection

    - the router started to reboot at random

    - switches in the network seem to work but cannot be found in the list of devices (smart switches with an IP address)

    - LAN devices seem to work but drop the IP occasionally

     

    It is now to the point that when I disconnect a device that is working on the network, I can no longer connect it afterward (e.g. Nest Protect removed from the system while it was working cannot be added through its app).

     

    Summary: confusing, frustration and a very unreliable mesh system

     

    I have performed another hard reset and renamed the router something different, trying to add WiFi devices (LAN devices seem to work) which worked for some but for most: no go. Hardwiring a satellite still gives a lot of problems (I ran a ping to a WiFi backhauled satellite on a computer wired to the router without issues; the moment I plugged in the backhaul cable - this was a brand new cable - ping started dropping packets).

     

    I know this is a long story, but anyone have any idea what is happening here???

     

    Eternal gratitude becomes you... Vince

     


     

    • ecniVgiB's avatar
      ecniVgiB
      Aspirant
      Thanks for your suggestions.

      I have performed a hard reset (through the reset button in the back) which gave me a clean 2.6.1.40 firmware and I started my setup from scratch, NOT by restoring a backup. I didn’t configure anything and attempted to add the devices (one new DETA smart switch that are already used in the house and are working: didn’t want to connect, and my new Nest Protect: didn’t want to connect. Furthermore, most devices started to reconnect, with exception of some devices. Those devices I tried to reset and reconnect, without avail.

      I wouldn’t know how revert to a previous firmware. I can’t find a place to download it.

      My system is 75% back up, but still lots of weirdness when I try to Ethernet back haul the satellites.

      I’m open to further suggestions in the hope it’s a software issue and not a hardware issue...
      • FURRYe38's avatar
        FURRYe38
        Guru

        IF you have ethernet connected RBS, then it's recommended that you downgrade to v16 on the RBS first then RBR lastly. I also found problems with FW versions v4 and all after this which seems to have problems with ethernet connected RBS.

        https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/RBR50-RBS50-Firmware-2-5-1-16-Update/m-p/1897955/highlight/true#M89460

         

        v16 works the best and doesn't have problems with ethernet connected RBS. 


        ecniVgiB wrote:
        Thanks for your suggestions.

        I have performed a hard reset (through the reset button in the back) which gave me a clean 2.6.1.40 firmware and I started my setup from scratch, NOT by restoring a backup. I didn’t configure anything and attempted to add the devices (one new DETA smart switch that are already used in the house and are working: didn’t want to connect, and my new Nest Protect: didn’t want to connect. Furthermore, most devices started to reconnect, with exception of some devices. Those devices I tried to reset and reconnect, without avail.

        I wouldn’t know how revert to a previous firmware. I can’t find a place to download it.

        My system is 75% back up, but still lots of weirdness when I try to Ethernet back haul the satellites.

        I’m open to further suggestions in the hope it’s a software issue and not a hardware issue...

         

  • Sounds like your problems began with 2.6.1.40

     

    perhaps you should revert back to your previous stable version