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macbates
Oct 16, 2020Aspirant
'Can't find server' errors with ORBI 753
I’m having some Internet issues with a newly installed Orbi RBK753 system, and haven’t been able to figure out how to solve them. What happens is that I will quite often get a “Safari can’t connect t...
FURRYe38
Oct 20, 2020Guru
Hopefully this is just a modem issue...Let continue in this current thread here...
macbates
Oct 20, 2020Aspirant
Mikey94025: Thanks for the pointer. Looks like several folks are having the same problem that I am, so hopefully NG will get the issue fixed soon. As some people with this problem have mentioned, it's irritating, but not critical, and the coverage range and speed mitigates problem this to some degree.
FURRYe38: Based on the above mentioned post, it really looks more like a router firmware issue than a modem. I'll keep on trying to find a replacement modem (always nice to have a spare), but a standalone ADSL modem seems to be quite rare. Even Netger only shows two, and the technical specs just show "RJ45" for the Ethernet connection, which tells me nothing about the speed.
- FURRYe38Oct 20, 2020Guru
Understand, you may need to find one with a built in router, however some also offer a bridge mode or mode only mode as a featrue so this will work as well.
- macbatesOct 28, 2020Aspirant
I tried dealing with the "Can't find server" errors over the past several days, but there are a few other issues with this router. Devices seem to come and go; one minute they're shown on the device list page, and the next they're gone. Not a big deal with iPhones, iWatch, and iPads, but my Brother printer is also a casualty. The solution seems to be that when I want to print I first have to cycle power on the Brother, at which time Orbi sees it (again!) and assigns an IP address. As long as I start printing within a few minutes, all is well. If I delay, the Brother disappears and it's back to the power cycle "solution".
I finally decided to do a factory reset and start over, but even this didn't fix things - same problems with server not found errors and device dropouts. After fighting this for a few hours today I finally gave up, disconnected it, and reverted to my original router and WiFi extenders. Not nearly as good coverage as with the Orbi, but having a slower but reliable network is orders of magnitude better than a fast and unreliable one. Luckily I'm within the return period, so the Orbi goes back tomorrow and I'll continue to wait for a reliable mesh system. A real shame.
- FURRYe38Oct 28, 2020Guru
You didn't get a chance to try a different modem did you.Your modem is of a older generation and also not working at 1000Mbps which is what Orbi supports. I would stil consider your modem a culprit as well. At any rate, sorry it didnt' work out.
Good Luck.
- ThaladorOct 31, 2020Apprentice
Dealing with exactly the same issue with my RBR750. On with support (had to buy gearhead support) and after 4 days of reset, reset, reset, on/off reset, reset downgrade firmware, upgrade firmware, reset they agreed this morning to RMA my router. I feel as though this is a hardware issue since the older firmware did it as well but we will see
- macbatesOct 31, 2020Aspirant
Thanks for the update. I agree thatr it's definitely a problem with the Orbi, although I'm not sure if it's hardware or software. The problem is certainly not due to a slower modem, unless there's no flow control (hardware or software) or insufficient buffering in the Orbi, which is, once again, an Orbi issue. I never got a response back from Netgear support, which is another reason I returned mine.
If Netgear does acknowledge that there's a problem and fixes it I'll see about trying it again, but if not I'll have to se if there's a mesh network system that has equivalent coverage and good reliability.
- FURRYe38Nov 01, 2020Guru
What Firmware version is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?
Thalador wrote:Dealing with exactly the same issue with my RBR750. On with support (had to buy gearhead support) and after 4 days of reset, reset, reset, on/off reset, reset downgrade firmware, upgrade firmware, reset they agreed this morning to RMA my router. I feel as though this is a hardware issue since the older firmware did it as well but we will see
- ThaladorNov 01, 2020Apprentice
It is on current, 3.2.16.6_1.4.4
at&t arris bgw210 modem.
- FURRYe38Nov 01, 2020Guru
You modem already has a built in router, This would be a double NAT (two router) condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router. https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktopATT Modems:
https://www.f0il.com/how-to-arris-bgw210-700-modem-router-with-netgear-xr500-router/
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-do-I-setup-bridge-mode-in-the-ARRIS-BGW210-700/m-p/1875994/highlight/true#M84982
ATT Dumb Switch Method:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-AX/Orbi-AX-6000-and-AT-amp-T-fiber-gateway-issue/m-p/1890125/highlight/true#M2756
Thalador wrote:It is on current, 3.2.16.6_1.4.4
at&t arris bgw210 modem.
- FURRYe38Nov 01, 2020Guru
Something to try as well, set the ISP modem back to router mode and change the RBR to AP mode and see if the Can't Find Server messages still appear...
- 2rjDec 13, 2020Aspirant
I am having the same problem with a brand new Orbi 753. Every so often following a link will get "server not found". Very intermittment and no pattern to it that I can see, sometimes its at a site I have never visited before, sometimes its a site I was at an hour ago. Once happened checking email via pop (at gmail).
This problem started a day after replacing a TP Link mesh network with the Orbi mesh network. Negear support has not been of much help, suggested diabling WiFi 6 and going to an older firmware version, neither of which helped. - FURRYe38Dec 13, 2020Guru
What Firmware version is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?Is Armor enabled?
Has a factory reset and setup from scratch been performed since last FW update?
- ThaladorDec 14, 2020Apprentice
I fixed my issue by getting an RMA AND more importantly not enabling access control. Once I do it all but hoses the system. Disabled it works 100%
- FURRYe38May 24, 2021Guru
Any progress on this?
macbates wrote:Thanks for the update. I agree thatr it's definitely a problem with the Orbi, although I'm not sure if it's hardware or software. The problem is certainly not due to a slower modem, unless there's no flow control (hardware or software) or insufficient buffering in the Orbi, which is, once again, an Orbi issue. I never got a response back from Netgear support, which is another reason I returned mine.
If Netgear does acknowledge that there's a problem and fixes it I'll see about trying it again, but if not I'll have to se if there's a mesh network system that has equivalent coverage and good reliability.