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Ready Cloud not seeing new files added NAS 3312
I have a NAS 3312 running version 6.10.8 which says is latest version. Originally, using Ready Cloud, users could see the folders but no files under the folders. I finally blew away all the user...
Note that file permissions can also be set and changed by the owner/creator of the file/folder in Windows. So it's hard to say whether you are dealing with a ReadyNAS bug or not. (it's also one reason why I generally prefer to rely on network permissions alone).
Another complication with ReadyCloud is that users generally have two accounts - their ReadyCloud account, and their normal user account that is used when on-premise. FWIW, I don't use ReadyCloud myself, I use OpenVPN for remote access.
I guess you could go with ssh, and examine exactly how the linux file permissions are set on the problem files/folders, and maybe also look at the samba configuration settings.
trentvoigt wrote:
Everyone has read/write access to specific areas. If they can see the share they have read/write.
There are two sets of permissions - network access and file permissions. Users need to have both to access a file in a share.
Generally network access is enough to manage who can access the share (and whether they have read-only access or read/write). When that is the case, it is ok to set "everyone" read/write file permissions.
trentvoigt wrote:
If they can see the share they have read/write.
Usually they can see all shares, whether they can access them or not. The exception is the private "home" folders, which aren't really shares.
It sounds to me that you have the local and ReadyNAS users as being parts of different groups. I personally think that the whole basis of ReadyCloud where a local and remote user can't be the same is flawed.
IMHO, the best solution to this is to dump ReadyCloud in favor of a VPN system that doesn't require different logins for local and remote access (and different home folders, if you use them). OpenVPN (most typically installed in a router) and ZeroTier (on the NAS) are good choices. They act differently, so which way you go depends a lot on your use model. I personally use ZeroTier, but it's just my family that has access. If you ever migrate to another brand NAS, these options will also remain open to you, where ReadyCloud won't. You don't have to stop using ReadyCloud just because you installed the other VPN. They will work together (well, ReadyCloud at least as well as it is now) while users get used to the transition.
Sandshark wrote:
I personally think that the whole basis of ReadyCloud where a local and remote user can't be the same is flawed.
I agree with that, and personally don't think the level of service is good enough for business use.
Netgear apparently expects you to use ReadyCloud even for a local connection, so you always have the same user ID. But that means you are always relying on Netgear's ReadyNAS server to establish the connection, even for an otherwise purely internal connection. It seems to be a part of their "personal cloud" sales pitch, which I believe gives users a false sense of security that a NAS in their own possession and administration gives the same kind of reliability, security, and redundancy as a real cloud asset.
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