Got it all sorted. Since I am using these in AP mode I needed to plug one of the R's LAN ports into my network switch and not use the WAN port. Even though in AP mode the WAN port can be used as a Lan port it just didn't work. Other abmormalities I ran into were the SSID could not be changed and the S's would would not backhaul connect via WIFI once I switched the router backhaul to wired.
To fix this I had to do a factory reset and start again to change the SSID, very frustrating.
I know the majority of people use these as a router but at the price you pay this stuff should work seamlessly. At least put steps like this in the documentation or FAQ.. If this hasn't been QA'd then shame on Linksys. I can't imagine someone without good technical knowlege dealing with this. Don't even get me going on the fact you have to be connected to the internet to set these up to start.
