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jjvoliver
Jul 27, 2018Apprentice
Netgear Orbi RBK53 Wired 2.1.4.16, too many issues!
So, I just set up this system on Monday, July 23rd, 2018.
Using it to replace a Google WiFi mesh system comprised of 3 Asus On-Hubs.
The reason I wanted to change was that I needed more r...
- Jul 27, 2018
What is the mfr and model# of the ISP modem?
Any network switches in the mix? If so, Mfr and model# of the switches.
What is the distances between the base router and satllite and in between the satellite? 30 feet should be a good starting point.
What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
Heres how I got my friends 50 series up and running:
Others to review:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Rbr50-satellite-to-satellite/m-p/1613750/highlight/true#M38100
jjvoliver
Jul 27, 2018Apprentice
FURRYe38 wrote:
What is the mfr and model# of the ISP modem?
Any network switches in the mix? If so, Mfr and model# of the switches.
What is the distances between the base router and satllite and in between the satellite? 30 feet should be a good starting point.
What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
Heres how I got my friends 50 series up and running:
Others to review:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Rbr50-satellite-to-satellite/m-p/1613750/highlight/true#M38100
Infinity router is a model TC8717, WiFi is completely off, so no worries there. Then the topology is as follows:
TC8717=hardwired>RBR50=Wireless>RBs50x2 (Just removed the daisy chain topology and changed to star topology)
I do have 1 8-port unmanaged switch to LAN 2 port in the RBR50, and all my main devices pluged to it (TV, PS4, Xbox One S, Wink 2 hub, Amazon Fire TV, FingBox, Obihai VOIP box, QNAP NAS), plus the Cat6e wire that runs to the 3rd floor, but it is currently unplugged from the second (farther) RBS50. My router is in the basement, the first satellite is roughly 25 feet from the router, and the 2nd satellite is just 45 feet from the main router and 20 feet from the 1st satellite. The stairs from basement to 2nd floor are completely open, no walls in the middle, so the signal goes straight to each satellite.
So far, with the star topology I'm showing a good connection to both satellites.
I will move to channel 1 on 2.4Ghz, disable MU-MIMO, as you mention in the setup you did for your friend, and leave it there for 24 hours and come back with the results.
Thank you, I will keep everyone posted.
FURRYe38
Jul 27, 2018Guru - Experienced User
Regarding your ISP modem/router:
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, LAN to LAN and configure AP mode on the Orbi router.
Hope the new settings help it work better for you...Let us know.
- waynealightJul 28, 2018Apprentice
what problems are you having with ethernet backhaul? ive not had any issues using it, only getting it to sync after a power cycle is challanging. In my case i have to sync wirelessly then once everything is going i can plug in ethernet backhaul and it will switch over and work great.
- jjvoliverJul 28, 2018Apprentice
waynealight wrote:
what problems are you having with ethernet backhaul? ive not had any issues using it, only getting it to sync after a power cycle is challanging. In my case i have to sync wirelessly then once everything is going i can plug in ethernet backhaul and it will switch over and work great.
The problem, as my original post explained, is that everything goes litterally crazy. Things start disconnecting, even the devices connected via LAN.
I know I'm not the only RBK50/53 owner with this issue,but it is also true that it's not happening to everyone, so you seem to be one of the lucky ones.
I will try your suggestion tomorrow, after the 24 hours of the current settings are past, it may very well be the issue that I tried to make the wired backhaul from setup instead of syncing wirelessly and then hardwiring it.
Do you also have 2 satellites? If so, do you have both satellites hardwired or just one?
The reason I ask is because the issue could be with backhauling 1 wireless and 1 hardwire, that could be confusing the router. Anyway, it's just something that came to mind right now.
Do you suggest that I just plug the Cat6e without rebooting the system and let it sync by itself? Please let me know.
Thank you.
- waynealightJul 28, 2018Apprentice
i was just wanting more detail on the going crazy part. From what i gather its locking up the system. I experience that if i have the satellite plugged in when i first power it in. I only use one but have experience the same issue, the entire network crashes as long as its plugged in. I also keep both my router and satellite on battery backups due to this problem.
SO basically what i do is power on the router first and let it completely boot. then with the ethernet backhaul disconnected I plug in the satellite, let it boot and sync and become stable. after a few minutes I plug in ethernet backhaul, the satellite will flash blue for about 30 seconds as its reconfiguring itself and presto back to normal. on both the router and satellite page it will verify you are using ethernet backhaul. If at anypoint i loose my satelite for some reason, it will not reconnect if ethernet backhaul is still plugged in, and will crash the network. basically like it used to do before that feature was enabled. I also leave mu-mimo, beanforming and fast roaming enabled.
I don't believe having one on ethernet and one wireless will affect anything, only because with ethernet backhaul working, it will maintain wireless backhaul connection. The topography will not show it, but if you watch the wireless backhaul traffic packets will move back and forth. not very many but they do.
As far as reliability go I usually have around 25 devices connected to my network. I run a 16 port unmannaged switch that innerconnects everything. it is the only thing plugged into the router besides the modem. I also use my satellite as a switch for my downstairs. The only time the network goes down is if I make a change that requires a reboot, firmware upgrade, or a power outtage lasting more than 3 hrs. so basically only firmware updates. always update the satellites first, then the router. Then follow the startup procedure.
I came from a linksys velop system that was 100x worse than this one. before ethernet backhaul system restarts were no issue, and having researched and used a few different systems before I will take this bump in the road in order to have ethernet backhaul. coverage and speed are awesome. mesh wifi in non commercial applications are still being ironed out, were the beta testers.
- jjvoliverJul 28, 2018Apprentice
Thanks a lot FURRYe38,
I'll give that a shot once the 24 hours of the current settings are passed and I see the results.
I''ll keep you guys posted.
- FURRYe38Jul 28, 2018Guru - Experienced User
Lets keep on this track and will have the best of hopes for you.
jjvoliver wrote:
Thanks a lot FURRYe38,
I'll give that a shot once the 24 hours of the current settings are passed and I see the results.
I''ll keep you guys posted.
- jjvoliverJul 28, 2018Apprentice
FURRYe38 wrote:
Lets keep on this track and will have the best of hopes for you.
jjvoliver wrote:
Thanks a lot FURRYe38,
I'll give that a shot once the 24 hours of the current settings are passed and I see the results.
I''ll keep you guys posted.
I know that 24 hours are not up yet, but all the same, everything seems to be working perfect now.
No disconnections so far.
FURRYe38, I will keep the system as it is for now, although I'm not really getitng the speed I would like in my bedroom (a closed door and 25 feet away from the last satellite), but at least it's solid after I used your solution.
Now, I will reply to waynealight's ideas in a separate post.
Thanks a lot guys.