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Orbi - why can't we change channels on satellites?
Wireless design best practice when installing multiple access points in an area is to have non-overlapping channels. So if you have 3 APs (RBR50, 2-RBS50) in an area, for 2.4 GHz, one AP would be cha...
MESH systems are based on wireless extender and repeating design and methods. These use same channel connections. Been like this since the beginning.
Besides if NG was to implement something to suite your needs, it wouldn't happen any time soon if at all on current product lines.
FURRYe38 wrote:
MESH systems are based on wireless extender and repeating design and methods. These use same channel connections. Been like this since the beginning.
Sorry, this does not make much sense - Orbi and Orbi Pro does much more than a Wireless Extender (repeater).
Orbi (most if not all versions) make use of a dedicated radio - thus Netgear does talk of Tri-Band - for the dedicated backhaul, nick-named FastLane3 Technology provides a dedicated WiFi Tx/Rx: 2x2 (866 Mbit link rate) up to 4x4 (1.7 Gbit link rate) in a Mesh. Different from a series of hard configured wireless bridges, the associations in a Mesh are dynamic and can change.
Unlikely they operate the backhaul radio and the 5 GHz front lane on the same channels - this is what a generic Wireless Extender would do (except if FastLane is enabled where one radio is used for a wireless bridge, and the other radio for the client access).
FURRYe38 wrote:
Besides if NG was to implement something to suite your needs, it wouldn't happen any time soon if at all on current product lines.
The Orbi access side is built with LAN ports and two dedicated radios, one on 2.4 GHz, one on 5 GHz on each router and satellite. Can't see why there should not be a possibility for implementing some channel optimisation and RRM (radio resource management).
I show the backhaul on ch 157.
Maybe it doesn't however thats probably what the chipset vendor intended and how they designed it. Remember, most router mfrs don't design there own chip sets, Mfrs like Broadcom, RaLink and others do. Router and wifi MFr use these vendors and just implement them in there environment. So in ways, Mfrs are limited on what they can do. From what I know, The high 5Ghz channels all dedicated for the wireless back haul, regardless of wired backaul. NO user access or configuration enabled in the UI. Not sure why they couldn't open up those channels when connected wired back haul. Would make more sence. However, it is what it is. The future will tell if this changes or not.
schumaku wrote:
FURRYe38 wrote:
MESH systems are based on wireless extender and repeating design and methods. These use same channel connections. Been like this since the beginning.
Sorry, this does not make much sense - Orbi and Orbi Pro does much more than a Wireless Extender (repeater).
Orbi (most if not all versions) make use of a dedicated radio - thus Netgear does talk of Tri-Band - for the dedicated backhaul, nick-named FastLane3 Technology provides a dedicated WiFi Tx/Rx: 2x2 (866 Mbit link rate) up to 4x4 (1.7 Gbit link rate) in a Mesh. Different from a series of hard configured wireless bridges, the associations in a Mesh are dynamic and can change.
Unlikely they operate the backhaul radio and the 5 GHz front lane on the same channels - this is what a generic Wireless Extender would do (except if FastLane is enabled where one radio is used for a wireless bridge, and the other radio for the client access).FURRYe38 wrote:
Besides if NG was to implement something to suite your needs, it wouldn't happen any time soon if at all on current product lines.
The Orbi access side is built with LAN ports and two dedicated radios, one on 2.4 GHz, one on 5 GHz on each router and satellite. Can't see why there should not be a possibility for implementing some channel optimisation and RRM (radio resource management).
FURRYe38 wrote:
The high 5Ghz channels all dedicated for the wireless back haul, regardless of wired backaul. NO user access or configuration enabled in the UI.
This is done because only the higher channels allow using the higher power, what is required for a fast and reliable wireless backhaul.
FURRYe38 wrote:
Not sure why they couldn't open up those channels when connected wired back haul.
Not sure how flexible things are. In a pure wired backhaul environment the more powerful (and depending on the model variant more capable) backhaul radios could serve as additional 5 GHz APs, too. But then, what has to happen if somebody does ad-hoc add a wireless satellite?
schumaku wrote:
FURRYe38 wrote:
The high 5Ghz channels all dedicated for the wireless back haul, regardless of wired backaul. NO user access or configuration enabled in the UI.
This is done because only the higher channels allow using the higher power, what is required for a fast and reliable wireless backhaul.
Not entirely true. Max transmit power of wireless devices is strongly regulated, you can get FCC/CRTC fines if you exceed it. For the US, the 4x4 radio on the Orbi is transmitting at 1000mW or 30dbM, exactly the same power level as the 802.11n on the 2x2 radio.