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ReallyAnnoyedAF
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May 02, 2019
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Orbi Firmware 2.3.1.60

Welp, anyone have any notes on this thing?  It's already downloaded to my router and satellite waiting for me to pull the pin.
  • clammerds's avatar
    clammerds
    May 03, 2019

    Hi,

     

    Just for information, when you're in the Firmware Update page and it downloads new firmware to install, the version number next to both the router and the satellite is a clickable link.

     

    If you click the link, it will show you the release notes of all changes between your currently installed firmware and the update.

     

    Although, this "feature" is not hidden, it's not always obvious that it's there either.

SW_'s avatar
SW_
Prodigy
May 16, 2019
thombe wrote:

on rbk50 - in AP mode

 

here is my latest log..

 

[WLAN access rejected: incorrect security] from MAC address 20:39:56:59:8f:ee, Wednesday, May 15, 2019 21:51:12

[WLAN access rejected: incorrect security] from MAC address 04:f1:28:2f:b0:6a, Wednesday, May 15, 2019 20:16:46

[UPnP set event: del_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Wednesday, May 15, 2019 16:30:59

[UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Wednesday, May 15, 2019 16:29:48

 

thombe, do you know if that MAC address belongs to your Satellite?  If yes, then you'll need to generate a new backhaul password to avoid WiFi instability.  Also, please disable UPnP as it's a security risk.  Since your Orbi is in AP mode, there shouldn't be any NAT rule either.  If everything is working properly, there shouldn't be anything in your log when your Orbi is in AP mode, except for local admin login/NTP time sync info.

 

thombe's avatar
thombe
Apprentice
May 17, 2019
SW_ wrote:
thombe wrote:

on rbk50 - in AP mode

 

here is my latest log..

 

[WLAN access rejected: incorrect security] from MAC address 20:39:56:59:8f:ee, Wednesday, May 15, 2019 21:51:12

[WLAN access rejected: incorrect security] from MAC address 04:f1:28:2f:b0:6a, Wednesday, May 15, 2019 20:16:46

[UPnP set event: del_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Wednesday, May 15, 2019 16:30:59

[UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Wednesday, May 15, 2019 16:29:48

 

thombe, do you know if that MAC address belongs to your Satellite?  If yes, then you'll need to generate a new backhaul password to avoid WiFi instability.  Also, please disable UPnP as it's a security risk.  Since your Orbi is in AP mode, there shouldn't be any NAT rule either.  If everything is working properly, there shouldn't be anything in your log when your Orbi is in AP mode, except for local admin login/NTP time sync info.

 

Hi, no it's not, both those rejected mac addresses are both Nokia android phones.

in addition the .188 up address that is upnping is one of those androids, so not sure what is causing that, but will look further, as i don't want any upnp on my setup.

FURRYe38 

Can I ask, about NG no longer forcing updates, is this from this firmware onwards, or is this from the server push. i.e. if i choose to run a specific earlier firmware will it remain on that firmware, e.g. .210. ??

 

i shall also be taking a look at netspot later. 

  • FURRYe38's avatar
    FURRYe38
    Guru - Experienced User
    May 17, 2019

    I believe it came in on v32 or v44. Not sure if you downgraded to v210 if it would auto update or not. 

  • SW_'s avatar
    SW_
    Prodigy
    May 17, 2019
    thombe wrote:
    in addition the .188 up address that is upnping is one of those androids, so not sure what is causing that, but will look further, as i don't want any upnp on my setup.

    i shall also be taking a look at netspot l

    thombe, UPnP can flood your WiFi network with its broadcast traffic about its UPnP services every 30mins to all UPnP clients.  UPnP is not applicable to AP mode and it should be the first thing to disable.

    • FURRYe38's avatar
      FURRYe38
      Guru - Experienced User
      May 17, 2019

      I believe uPnP is disabled on the Orbi when in AP mode...?

      SW_ wrote:
      thombe wrote:
      in addition the .188 up address that is upnping is one of those androids, so not sure what is causing that, but will look further, as i don't want any upnp on my setup.

      i shall also be taking a look at netspot l

      thombe, UPnP can flood your WiFi network with its broadcast traffic about its UPnP services every 30mins to all UPnP clients.  UPnP is not applicable to AP mode and it should be the first thing to disable.

       

      • gr8sho's avatar
        gr8sho
        Virtuoso
        May 17, 2019
        Why would I want UPnP on at all?
    • thombe's avatar
      thombe
      Apprentice
      May 23, 2019

      so I need some help I think.

       

      I looked at this mornings log files and I'm getting loads of upnp, which might well explain why my system is pretty unstable..

       

      however I use the orbi in ap mode, so can't enable or disable upnp, I'm not sure where to look now.

      see below..

       

      [UPnP set event: del_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 20:25:30
      [UPnP set event: del_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 20:24:06
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 20:24:02
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.79, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 20:23:59
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 20:23:56
      [UPnP set event: del_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.79, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 20:23:33
      [UPnP set event: del_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 20:23:15
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.79, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 20:23:12
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 20:23:11
      [UPnP set event: del_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 20:01:58
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 20:01:01
      [UPnP set event: del_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 19:18:31
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 19:17:31
      [UPnP set event: del_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 19:16:50
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 19:15:25
      [UPnP set event: del_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 19:08:24
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 19:04:28
      [UPnP set event: del_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:59:46
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:52:41
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:52:35
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:52:07
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:52:03
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:52:00
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:51:43
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:51:02
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:50:58
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:50:49
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:50:42
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:50:16
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:50:13
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:48:25
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:48:21
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:47:15
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:47:11
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:46:57
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:46:53
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:46:30
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:46:24
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:45:45
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:45:41
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:42:50
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:42:46
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:42:20
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:42:16
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:41:51
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:41:44
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:40:28
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:40:25
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:40:07
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:39:41
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:39:23
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:39:12
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:38:40
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:38:33
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:38:28
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:38:22
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:38:13
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:37:49
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:37:31
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:37:11
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:37:07
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:36:54
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:36:19
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:36:12
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:36:08
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:36:04
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:34:42
      [UPnP set event: del_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:12:52
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:12:15
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:12:11
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:11:43
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:11:39
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:10:01
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:09:58
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:09:46
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:09:42
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:08:36
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 10.208.22.216, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:08:28
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:07:37
      [UPnP set event: del_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 17:08:25
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.102, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 17:07:59
      [UPnP set event: del_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 16:20:53
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 16:07:35
      [UPnP set event: del_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.76, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 14:23:24
      [UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.76, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 14:23:12
      [Time synchronized with NTP server] Tuesday, May 21, 2019 11:31:38
      [email sent to: 8mundania@gmail.com] Tuesday, May 21, 2019 09:00:03
       

      • FURRYe38's avatar
        FURRYe38
        Guru - Experienced User
        May 28, 2019

        What are these devices seen at these IP addresses? 

        What is the IP address pool size of on the RBR? default? 

        If the AP mode, the Orbi shouldn't be logging any UPnP events for devices. That should be done on your host router. 

  • SW_'s avatar
    SW_
    Prodigy
    May 17, 2019
    thombe wrote:

    ... if i choose to run a specific earlier firmware will it remain on that firmware, e.g. .210. ??

    If you want to stay with v210, you could try Disable Orbi Auto Firmware Update.