Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availability

This firmware is definitely garbage as well.  It fixes the home kit issues, but reduces wireless performance.  disabling or enabling mu-mimo, daisy chain, fast roam or beamform make no difference whatsoever.  We feally need a good robust firmware that allows full qos control and ability to take advantage of the gigabit capabilities of the device.  When I first set this up I could see 600+ mbps down on a one gig connection.  Since last firmware, I'm lucky to get 300.

In agreement.. the firmware fixes those problems but at a significant wireless performance drop. I hope that is being worked on & we can expect a newer firmware soon. 

You can use the Orbi in router mode if your ISP modem/router has a DMZ feature. 

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cheshbr wrote:
My excuse for using AP node is that I still need a DSL modem for the forseable future. Mine is a combine modem/router with a great pedigree (Billion 7800 VDOX with VoIP), so I mearly disabled Wifi on the Billion and put the Orbis into AP., and it works, including wired backhaul, when I do get a boost in my broadband capability, I may try router mode

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Using DMZ permanently is risky as it opens all ports.  It should be used only in troubleshooting.  Here’s a quote from Tom’s Hardware

”The main reason a DMZ is not safe is people are lazy. The NAT protects them without them knowing anything. Once you turn that off (by using DMZ)  you must learn how networks really work...ie what are ports numbers what are ip addresses etc etc. Most people just scream....i wanna play my game... and pretend there are no bad people on the internet”

Thats only in considerations for a single NAT/router configuration use. If your in a two router configuration, then DMZ is a valid and working solution if you use a two router configuration and if you want to use the 2nd routers routing features, then yes, you need to open up ports to the 2nd router behind the first one. This is where DMZ comes in to play. And there is two firewalls in a two router configuration as well. Having the 2nd router in the 1st routers DMZ isn't insecure as the 2nd routers firewall would be active as well. Using the DMZ on the 1st router would be getting the 2nd router close to a single NAT configuration as possible. Which is the same thing as a stand alone modem with out a router and having the Orbi router connected to it. I've done this many times with thise kind of configuration. Zero issues or problems with it. 

http://computer.howstuffworks.com/nat.htm

www.practicallynetworked.com/networking/fixing_double_nat.htm

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Networking-101-The-DMZ-137550

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cheshbr wrote:

Using DMZ permanently is risky as it opens all ports.  It should be used only in troubleshooting.  Here’s a quote from Tom’s Hardware

”The main reason a DMZ is not safe is people are lazy. The NAT protects them without them knowing anything. Once you turn that off (by using DMZ)  you must learn how networks really work...ie what are ports numbers what are ip addresses etc etc. Most people just scream....i wanna play my game... and pretend there are no bad people on the internet”

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cheshbr wrote:

Using DMZ permanently is risky as it opens all ports.  It should be used only in troubleshooting.  Here’s a quote from Tom’s Hardware

”The main reason a DMZ is not safe is people are lazy. The NAT protects them without them knowing anything. Once you turn that off (by using DMZ)  you must learn how networks really work...ie what are ports numbers what are ip addresses etc etc. Most people just scream....i wanna play my game... and pretend there are no bad people on the internet”

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