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KegSed
Mar 04, 2019Aspirant
ORBI Network setup planning
There is obviously a very active community here and with the wealth of (mis)information on the internet, I'd rather just see if I could pick ya'lls brain a bit.
My house is almost done being bu...
michaelkenward
Mar 05, 2019Guru - Experienced User
FURRYe38 wrote:
Avoid modem router combo units if possible:
Spot on there.
I would add a caution against using a modem/router in modem only mode.
I did that and whenever there was a power cut, the network got its knickers in a twist on reboot.
The modem took too long to start. The router beat it to it and was looking for the Internet connection before the modem was ready. It timed out and the rest of the network with an Internet free zone.
I eliminated the problem by buying an inexpensive modem-only box. A DM200 for my VDSL.
gr8sho
Mar 05, 2019Virtuoso
michaelkenward wroteSpot on there.
I would add a caution against using a modem/router in modem only mode.
AT&T doesn't have a modem, or gateway only device, neither for VDSL2 nor for fiber. They also do not support 3rd party routers connected to the ONT on fiber installs. The wireless radios can be turned off which is how I run my gateway .
KegSed when the install happens, the Arris BGW210-700 would be the best choice for gateway. Once you have the gateway , the DMZ function is called IP passthrough and is located in the firewall section of the management console . I posted a screenshot in this forum of what the settings look like. AT&T support forums use the same forum software as here and is decent if you need help with their stuff.
- KegSedMar 05, 2019Aspirant
Thanks for the replies everyone. It really helps with the planning.
I believe the Arris is the model they are currently providing. We have some friends who live in that neighborhood already and that's what he has. He built out a full Ubiquity system (APs, not the Amplifi) and I thought he said he had the ATT guy let him turn his combo unit into a simple bridge to bypass. Wouldn't that be better than doing the DMZ approach or is it about the same?
Assuming you are using ATT and the Orbi system, do you have any wifi cameras in your setup? I've heard that there is sometimes some issues trying to tunnel in to get a live feed of some wifi cameras with the Orbi system although I'm not sure that's on Orbi's end or some of the Wifi cameras end.
Thanks again for the information!
- FURRYe38Mar 05, 2019Guru - Experienced User
If you can get the tech to bridge the modem fully so it passed a public IP address to a connected router, then you can use the Orbi in router mode and you'll be good to go in that configuration which is preferred.
KegSed wrote:
Thanks for the replies everyone. It really helps with the planning.
I believe the Arris is the model they are currently providing. We have some friends who live in that neighborhood already and that's what he has. He built out a full Ubiquity system (APs, not the Amplifi) and I thought he said he had the ATT guy let him turn his combo unit into a simple bridge to bypass. Wouldn't that be better than doing the DMZ approach or is it about the same?
Assuming you are using ATT and the Orbi system, do you have any wifi cameras in your setup? I've heard that there is sometimes some issues trying to tunnel in to get a live feed of some wifi cameras with the Orbi system although I'm not sure that's on Orbi's end or some of the Wifi cameras end.
Thanks again for the information!
- gr8shoMar 06, 2019Virtuoso
KegSed wrote:
Thanks for the replies everyone. It really helps with the planning.
I believe the Arris is the model they are currently providing. We have some friends who live in that neighborhood already and that's what he has. He built out a full Ubiquity system (APs, not the Amplifi) and I thought he said he had the ATT guy let him turn his combo unit into a simple bridge to bypass. Wouldn't that be better than doing the DMZ approach or is it about the same?
Assuming you are using ATT and the Orbi system, do you have any wifi cameras in your setup? I've heard that there is sometimes some issues trying to tunnel in to get a live feed of some wifi cameras with the Orbi system although I'm not sure that's on Orbi's end or some of the Wifi cameras end.
Thanks again for the information!
There were issues with port forwarding, but those were resolved. I do have both an Amazon cloud cam and a Blink XT, and both are accessible from the public internet without the need for port forwarding .
It would be incorrect to call the connection bridged. The gateway is still minimally involved. The Orbi does receive the external IP address when setup in IP passthrough.
If the tech sets it up, that's going above and beyond what they're supposed to do.
And yes, I have the BGW210 and Orbi RBK50. The Arris device is used only to deliver Uverse IPTV traffic to my TV's.