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Latchland
Apr 19, 2020Aspirant
RBR20 on NBN Fttp without isp modem
Hi all I currently have an Orbi RBR20 and one satellite connected and working. I'm wanting to remove the isp modem router from the equation and run the orbi alone so that all devices use it rather ...
Retired_Member
Apr 19, 2020I have an RBR20 on nbn FttP with Aussie Broadband. It works fine. Aussie Broadband don't require a VLAN on the WAN port. Your ISP may. The ORBI supports this, but I can't comment on how to configure it. Someone on forums.whirlpool.net.au would be able to assist with questions about specific ISP configuration on the Orbi.
RBR20 running V2.5.1.16 firmware. It also worked with V2.3.5.38 firmware which I upgraded from a couple of days ago.
michaelkenward
Apr 19, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Retired_Member wrote:
Aussie Broadband don't require a VLAN on the WAN port. Your ISP may.
Blimey. That's a wrinkle too far for me.
Retired_Member wrote:
Someone on forums.whirlpool.net.au would be able to assist with questions about specific ISP configuration on the Orbi.
Great suggestion. Victims of NBN turn up here all the time. Is that the place to send them?
- Retired_MemberApr 19, 2020
Yes, the Whirlpool forums are a good place to send folks for Oz ISP advice. Apart from issues with particular nbn access technologies, some individual ISPs have nuances in their configuration requirements.
A number of ISPs down here require VLAN configuration on the WAN. The TPG group ISPs for example. This leads to gotchas with certain modem routers for example (not Orbi)
Because my ISP doesn't use VLANs and does DHCP, it was just a case of plugging in the ORBI (with default config) to the ONT and it was up in a couple of minutes. I've also used a TP-Link Archer C7 with both stock and Openwrt firmware with same result.
- Retired_MemberApr 19, 2020
An example of how confusing it can be down here
https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/thread/9lnqyy09
Latchland - the Orbi should be fine once you confirm the ISP configuration details.
- LatchlandApr 20, 2020Aspirant
I'll head to whirlpool and see if i can get some answers from someone that has the same setup as i'm wanting. Cheers
- michaelkenwardApr 20, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Retired_Member wrote:
Yes, the Whirlpool forums are a good place to send folks for Oz ISP advice. Apart from issues with particular nbn access technologies, some individual ISPs have nuances in their configuration requirements.
Great. We see a lot of people here and it is impossible to grapple with all of those Oz ISPs. Now we can aim them at Whirlpool.
Netgear does not help in its advice on NBN.
What is an NBN network and is my NETGEAR DSL modem router compatible? | Answer | NETGEAR Support
Netgear lists all manner of things as being "compatible" with NBN in that article. In reality this often means that devices sold as modem/routers will work as a router. Depending on the ISP, you have to bypass the modem bit and use something else as a modem.
It is a pity that Netgear does not make that clearer in its advice to NBN users. It might prevent people from wasting money on an incompatible modem router. They would be better off buying a simple router and using whatever modem their ISP provides, or buying one suitable for their Internet service.
- LatchlandApr 20, 2020Aspirant
Off to Whirlpool I go. It is odd that Netgear doesn't suggest this type of setup initially as it seems to be a lot easier and cleaner than piggy-backing on the isp modem/router. Everything I read says i need to plug in my isp modem to the orbi. Maybe that is for fibre connections that terminate outside the house, not inside like mine. Cheers for the info
- LatchlandApr 20, 2020Aspirant
Sounds promising. I guess giving it a try wont hurt. Worse comes to worst, I will put the isp modem back in the mix and research further. Either that or contact TPG and see if they can give me some direction (last resort). Cheers
- LatchlandApr 20, 2020Aspirant
I'll just give it a shot when the fam can do without the internet for a bit. But if i run into dramas i will head to whirlpool. Cheers