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benn600
Jun 15, 2017Apprentice
Serious Satellite Connectivity Bug
This is not intermittent or difficult to reproduce. I consistently am unable to connect to devices on my Orbi network. I have seen this problem 15-20 times over about 2 weeks and I have power cycled, reset, and re-paired the satellites 5 times each in various orders.
I have an RBR50 with two RBS50's. Each Orbi has several devices connected to it via Ethernet as well as via WiFi (nearest devices). I have ten (10) Denon Heos speakers. Some are hardwired to each Orbi and some are wirelessly connecting to each Orbi.
Very simple steps:
1. iPhone 7 connects to Kitchen satellite. It cannot see ANY speakers that are connected to the Living Room satellite. I open the HEOS app and I see 6, not all 10 speakers.
2. I cannot connect to my living room Apple TV's, either of them. They show up in the list on my iPhone but connecting to them hangs and returns "Unable to connect..."
3. I cannot see or ping the Living Room satellite AT ALL. Fing, the app, reports the device offline and when I open the IP address in Safari, nothing. It hangs.
When I walk close to the Living Room satellite, suddenly I can ping the Living Room satellite, my Apple TV works, and the speakers on the Living Room satellite appear! Oddly I can also see the Kitchen satellite.
So either there is a software problem that needs resolved, or my Living Room satellite is broken/has a hardware problem. I have tried switching the two, resetting them, re-pairing them. Nothing helps. Tech support told me congratulations, I'm connected! I said in an hour or three everything will fall apart again, like it has 20 times.
I have generated the abilty to generate an RMA but I'm extremely frustrated at the level of response and service from Netgear. Not only is this 2nd satellite about 40 days old, purchased from Fry's, but as I'm explaining to them--this makes absolutely no sense and is no way my fault. I'm using these devices 100% as they were intended. I was a huge believer in this product until I added the 2nd satellite.
1. Would it help if I fully reset the Router as well? I have only reset the Satellites and re-paired them.
2. I already flipped the satellites. Unfortunately, I have seen the problem in both directions. While wirelessly connected to one of the satellites, connecting to devices on the other is 40% of the time not possible. That's a lot of downtime. Especially when I have dozens of home automation devices that suddenly vanish. What a waste of money/effort setting them all up.
3. I would like Netgear to provide me escalated support and help me through this frustrating situation that I think it is in their best interest to learn from. I would like them to not charge me for an advanced RMA (which seems ridiculous) but also to pay the return shipping for the defective unit. If they sent me a new unit I could play with the 3 satellites, in different configurations, to determine if one is in fact bad or if something else is going on here.
58 Replies
- benn600ApprenticeThat's my point. My 70+ devices don't matter, it is as simple as the above. This just leads me to the scenarios I have described. Any suggestions Netgear?
- benn600ApprenticeI have a case open but I wasn't willing to pay to return defective hardware. I can call and ask to escalate to a complimentary advanced RMA. Or other ideas to test.
- StkasmApprentice
So, I found some time today to do the testing. benn600 unfortunately (or fortunately), I can't reproduce what you're describing. What I did:
1. Connected laptop #1 to Satelite #1, verified BSSID in windows (netsh wlan show interfaces)
2. Connected laptop #2 to Satelite #2, verified BSSID in windows (netsh wlan show interfaces)
3. verified that both laptops are accessible via ping from my ESXi VM running on a host connected to the main home switch (the one orbi router also connects to)
4. verified that lapton #1 and laptop #2 can ping each other (double hop)
5. verified that I can access router and both satelites via individual UIs from a laptop connected to a satelite
My orbi system is in AP mode, if your is not, try switching to AP and let your ISP router do the rest
- benn600Apprentice
Netgear replied to one of my reviews and said that this is looking like a known problem, several other people are experiencing it. They sent me info on trying beta firmware. I also have a new satellite in the mail that I can test. So hopefully either the firmware or the hardware will fix it. I will be a HAPPY camper if it does! I still love Orbi but this problem is terrifying awful.
- benn600ApprenticeThis is still broken. Suddenly my Kitchen Heos vanished. When I walked close to my Kitchen Orbi, it came back.
1. It may still be hardware so I'll test the replacement they are shipping me.
2. I'll try resetting and pairing the satellites.
3. Worst case I'll reset the router and manually add the 100 DHCP reservations and settings.- OrbiPhilipLuminary
benn600 wrote:
This is still broken. Suddenly my Kitchen Heos vanished. When I walked close to my Kitchen Orbi, it came back.
1. It may still be hardware so I'll test the replacement they are shipping me.
2. I'll try resetting and pairing the satellites.
3. Worst case I'll reset the router and manually add the 100 DHCP reservations and settings.#3 is one reason I use a standalond DHCP/DNS server.
I have reset and reconfigured everything. At this point I'm spending way too much time tryng to make it work, and the family is fairly aggravated. If 1.12.0.8 does not make it stable, I will have to find another solution.- benn600Apprentice
This is actually worse than I thought and happened immediately. I have one router in the middle of my upstairs and two satellites, each on the edge of my downstairs (rectangular shape).
1. Hold reset with a paperclip on EACH satellite (both) until it blinks amber. It resets and is not connected to my router.
2. Launch add satellite from mobile app and push the sync button, wait the 6 minutes. I did one satellite at a time, kitchen first and then living room.
3. While standing near Kitchen satellite I see my Kitchen HEOS and Foscam (both Ethernet connected to Orbi) without any issue.
4. I walk upstairs near the router and BAM, Kitchen HEOS and Kitchen camera are gone/invisible/cannot ping and I cannot ping the satellite.
I'm going to test a few more scenarios. This happened immediately and without delay, and over and over. I probably need to reset my router...