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Setting up Orbi backhaul
Hi all I have just bought the triple pack Orbi as my current Wi-fi is struggling to cope with demand. I am looking for advice on the configuration of backhaul I have planned. I had hoped to connect...
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This would be a double NAT (two router) condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router. https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktop
Be sure you connect any RBS wired to the back of the RBR directly or thru a switch. You can't connect the RBR and RBS in parallel to a switch infront of the RBR as the status reporting of the RBS will not work on the RBR. Any wired RBS needs to be serially connected behind the RBR.
Yes if you can directly connect the RBS to the back of the RBR, you can hang a switch of the back of the wired RBS.
I would disable Daisy Chain on the RBR as well.
30 feet is recommended in between RBR and RBS to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected. https://kb.netgear.com/000036466/How-far-should-I-place-my-Orbi-satellite-from-my-Orbi-router
hi
First off all, thanks for taking the time to give such a comprehensive reply, very much appreciated.
I have been trying to avoid mucking with the modem too much, I have a couple off applications that took a while to get setup and stable , and bearing in mind I know just enough to be dangerous I am scared to blow current config .
i had a scratch about the current set up (ASUS DSL-AC 68U) and there is no issue turning off the radios, and I can disable NAT, so maybe there is scope to modify the existing profile to avoid clashes and save me starting a brand new one again from scratch. The applications that I don't want to upset are security and heating applications that rely on settings through the router.
I assume I can keep the current modem doing DHCP duties so that all current ip's that are fixed remain so, and I also assume that the modem not doing NAT won't affect the applications that are ported through the modem?
sorry more questions lol .
i will read all the papers from the links you supplied and from these I am sure I will manage , I was tempted to go the ASUS mesh route as it appeared so much easier but cost and poor reviews sent down what now appears as a more technically challenging route, and I like a challenge
thanks again
Iain
IMO, if you want to keep things easy and working and stable, use the Orbi in AP mode. I presume during this time frame, stable network and ISP services is crucial and disabling the radios on the host router and letting it due the router duties while Orbi in AP mode will be the best suggestion for your needs. Later on when this time frame passes, then you could make some changes in the system.
Hi
yup reading the first article got me there, one thing that I have just got through the daisy chain comment is that the Orbi does not appear to be a mesh system as I had envisaged. I am a little surprised/disappointed in that (assuming my understanding is correct) I don't think it will kill my application or setup but I am not sure if the term mesh best describes the product - maybe it's just a play on words or maybe just me being grounded with other definitions of mesh networks.
dont think this will have me cancelling order but I am going to think a bit about my expectation vs what I am getting
What is your idea of MESH?
Daisy chain is for two or more RBS piggy backing off each other out in a line and not in star formation.
IMO it's a basic MESH system. Nothing ellaborate. It works for what it does. Most Home class systems are simplistic and nothing too complex, though Orbi sure has it's days of seemily being complex when troubleshooting.