Setting up Orbi backhaul

Cable looked out, new babies due Tuesday, will devise a plan of attack over the next 3 days, then completely ignore it in the fog of new gizmo utopia that will follow the delivery man throwing the parcel at my front door some 3 hours later than promised !

This will be the rub when the box is delievered only to to stolen by some door dash theif. LOL. :smileytongue:

They better be able to run fast ! Working from home, so no real worries I guess 😂😂 will still have to pause breathe and refrain from just plugging them in and shouting "perform you little miracle bundles " 😂😂 

We'll keep our fingers crossed for you. :smileyvery-happy:

Will report results 

The one disadvantage with AP mode is that you will not be able to use Circle and Armor.  Instead, your router (non-Orbi) will need to be able to provide those functions, or some sort of other product.

I have the exact same setup.  One satellite wired, the other wifi.  Works great.  I have the bulk of my streaming devices on the wire now which frees up the wifi for the real mobile devices.  Works great.

Hi, thanks for the feedback, I am glad that the wired & wirelss works together, this was one of the reasons I went Orbi instead of the ASUS route, with the ASUS it appeared that wiring a node meant that it disabled the deadicated backhaul and with my exisiting router being dual band I was not really gaining any advantage then, as t0 keep the wireless backhaul on the nodes, they would have to talk to the main router on a non dedicated 5 Ghz wirless  - which seems rather stupid. The ASUS modem does have interfaces for both control and access for kids and it has its own built in security that I have always switched off as I ust see it as another overhead - maybe with improved network I may switch it back on again, as a modem and router is is good-maybe I may update to something directly compatible with the Orbi, but thats cost I dont want to add at this time!

cheers

Iain

Hope the Orbi is working well now for you. 

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IainMcFarlane wrote:

Hi, thanks for the feedback, I am glad that the wired & wirelss works together, this was one of the reasons I went Orbi instead of the ASUS route, with the ASUS it appeared that wiring a node meant that it disabled the deadicated backhaul and with my exisiting router being dual band I was not really gaining any advantage then, as t0 keep the wireless backhaul on the nodes, they would have to talk to the main router on a non dedicated 5 Ghz wirless  - which seems rather stupid. The ASUS modem does have interfaces for both control and access for kids and it has its own built in security that I have always switched off as I ust see it as another overhead - maybe with improved network I may switch it back on again, as a modem and router is is good-maybe I may update to something directly compatible with the Orbi, but thats cost I dont want to add at this time!

 

cheers

 

Iain

 

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Ok, You should be fine. Keep us upated on how it turns out. Ya, you'll need to set 1 SSID name so you'll have to go in to the devices and either change them to use the the SSID name or setup from scratch. 

So far so so I am afraid - getting all my 2.4 stuff back online is not happening easy, also seems to be dropping internet frequently, had put this down to firmware update but less sure . will persevere - need to work out how to switch of 5 Gz try to connect all the 2.4 stuff and see from there

If you need 2.4Ghz only SSID, Netgear provides a simple mechanism to accomplish this:
Log into the Orbi web interface (http://orbilogin.net)
Navigate to the Advanced Tab, Advanced Settings, Wireless Settings
Uncheck the box, "Broadcast SSID on 5G"
Click "Apply"
All devices that are currently connected to the Orbi will remain connected.
On the smartphone, go to wireless settings and "forget" the Orbi SSID
Search for available WiFi networks. Select the Orbi WiFi. Enter the password. and connect.
If you are curious about whether the smartphone is actually connected at 2.4G, you have to wait a few minutes, because the "Attached Devices" display takes a while to update.
Open the app and set up the 2.4G device.
Once the device is connected and working as it should, reverse the steps.
Check the "Broadcast" box and click "Apply"
"Forget" the Orbi WiFi. Search. Enter password. Connect.

Be aware that there seems to be a time limit with some iOS or Android devices that will connect to the 2.4Ghz radio for a short period of time before changing automatically to the 5Ghz SSID, even though it's been hidden. The SSID is hidden only, thus the signal is still present. So you might want to also change the power output of the 5Ghz radio to 25%. Then connect your mobile device at a distance from the RBR to ensure the mobile phone keeps connected to the 2.4Ghz radio. After you get the IoT device connected, re-configure the system back to where it was.

 You might turn OFF RBS while working with the RBR and devices alone. If you can get it all connected. Then turn on the RBS. 

I have tried both options but to no avail- instanly lost 13 client connections on switching over. I have tried to change the ssid of the 5Ghz but for some reason its not sticking- can only assume something in firmware preventing! that was my last resort.

looks like its back in the box and I will just have to scratch my head and see what is what as it stands which is a shame.

Any chance you have your prior router? If you do, turn OFF the Orbi system temporarily. Turn on the prior router. YOu don't have to have it connected to the ISP Modem or anything. Be sure to set up the 2.4Ghz radio portion of the router for same SSID name and password as on the Orbi. Get your devices to connect to it. Once you have them connected. Turn ON the Orbi system and let it come to ready. Soon as the Orbi system is ready, turn OFF the prior router. Your devices should migrate over to the orbi wifi signal with out any hiccups. I had to do this once of a Amazon Dot I was trying to connect. :smileyindifferent:

when I originally set-up the original 2.4 was on - I in effect did this by accident- Unfortunately its back in the box! which is a shame as I had great hopes for it! I never got the router off the solid magenta led ring after the initial set-up when it was blue, seemed strange as all connections were good and speed test showed almost full speed of my phone line!

I realise Netgears take on why they have set-up the UI the way they have, its just a shame it does not readily suit my wants and needs.

Off course its their porpogative to lock down the system as they please, but I cananot help ut think they are missing a tick a little.

I would alos say that I was very surprise at the difference in performance of the user interface between the Netgear and the ASUS router, it is surprisilngly night and day, in terms of usability and speed, but I guess that is to some degree opinion and expecation.

Thanks to everyone that contributed to my brief dabble with the Netgear Orbi it is very much appreciated.

Keep well all and I will keep a wee eye out on this thread for a day or so!

I would add, it took literaly 30 seconds for me to get all 26 of my client nodes back up and running on bringing my old setup back to life- so notheing ventuted nothing gained, but zero harm done!!

Something to now try the Orbi RBR out if it's using the same SSID name and PW as your current router. If you can try this at some point. 

Ok, hoped that would have worked.

Running out of ideas. 

One last ditch effort you can try. You can try Voxels FW for Orbi:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Voxels-FW-available-for-50-series-Orbi-only-available/m-p/1883615#
You can revert back to stock FW if it doesn't work out for you. 

Hopefully find someting that works well for you.

Good Luck. 

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