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djc6
Nov 06, 2016Luminary
Slooooow iPad 3 & iPad 2 on Orbi - everything else super fast
Picked up an RBK53 - three pack Orbi at Costco on Friday. I have an iPad 2, iPad 3 both running iOS 9.3.5. They will likely never get upgraded past that, iOS 10 doesn't support them. Both devi...
- Nov 11, 2016
Hello djc6
I was able to get my hands on a Ipad 2 and test it on my orbi and I am getting the same result as you are it will not go over 20 mbs enen though my laptop is getting 70+ on speed tests I will pass this along to our engineers to see if we can find out why.
DarrenM
djc6
Nov 11, 2016Luminary
peteytesting wrote:its a known issue with these older apple devices and the chipset they use
Link? I am curious to read about this known issue. Seems iPad 3 uses BCM4330 and iPad 2 uses BCM43291HKUBC so two different chipsets impacted here in the same manner. So far haven't been able to find article about a known issue.
Just surprised its so much faster on my old router. If it was a device issue I'd expect it to be equally slow.
peteytesting
Nov 11, 2016Hero
just google ipad2 capped at 20mbps
it is a combination of the ipad only using 20mhz and prob only connecting to the 2.4 gig band , check what band the ipad is connected to and if the orbi 2.4 gig ch is set to auto or a specific ch as if its specific it sets the max sync at 400M
its also possible its a wmm issue , try disabling WMM in the qos
- Mikey94025Nov 12, 2016Hero
Thanks petey for pointing out that this is also a general problem seen with older ipads:
* https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2627699?start=0&tstart=0
* https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2398063?start=60
- djc6Nov 15, 2016Luminary
Mikey94025 wrote:Thanks petey for pointing out that this is also a general problem seen with older ipads:
* https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2627699?start=0&tstart=0
* https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2398063?start=60
These posts are 6+ years old and reference iOS 5. You seem to be ignoring the fact that on my old router TP-Link TL-WR1043ND v2 N300 class I saw 2x the speeds of Orbi - but the TP-Link router is 2.4Ghz only. When my iPads connect to Orbi they select 5Ghz - I can't force the iPads to connect to 2.4Ghz to test with Orbi.
To compare apples to apples, I borrowed my sister's Asus RT-N66U and brought it to my house. This router broadcasts two SSIDs - one 2.4Ghz, one 5Ghz so I can force connection to 5Ghz. On 5Ghz I am seeing 48Mbps down and 32Mbps up with the RT-N66U where as the Orbi I see 18-20Mbps down and 32Mbps up (again odd that uploads are much faster than downloads)
Faster uploads than downloads on iPad 2 and iPad 3 when in same room as Orbi router. Using TP-Link TL-WR1043ND v2 (2.4Ghz) or Asus RT-N66U (5Ghz) - see same uploads speeds as Orbi (~32Mbps) but download speeds are 2x or better with TP-Link or Asus routers (40-48Mbps).
- Mikey94025Nov 15, 2016Hero
Maybe the speed differences you're seeing between routers has to do with wireless compatibility modes. On my older routers there were various 2.4Ghz/5Ghz speed options. My Netgear WNDR3700 has these choices for both the 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz bands:
- Up to 54 Mbps - Legacy Mode with maximum speed of up to 54 Mbps for b/g networks.
- Up to 130 Mbps - Neighbor Friendly Mode, with a speed up to 130 Mbps in presence of neighboring wireless networks.
- Up to 300 Mbps - Performance Mode - Maximum Wireless-N speed up to 300 Mbps.
I had a very old Withings scale that only supported 802.11b, so I had to keep the 2.4Ghz speeds low for legacy mode or else it wouldn't connect. Orbi doesn't seem to allow this type of control over the 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz speeds so perhaps whatever it's using is not optimal for your older devices? It does seem that the Orbi is being packaged as more of a set-and-forget device than a power routers like the Nighthawk R8 and R10.