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POE+ vs POE++ unmanaged witchs (I own a GS116PP)
Hi.
I am new to this forum and have not read the rules yet so if I mess it up please be gentle with me 🙂
OK I own a GS116PP switch and a WAX630E AP - both brand new
When powering the WAX630E using POE+ I get a message saying port speed is halved because of low power.
Now I knew this going into it before I purchased but I thought it meant the literal port speed.
IE - port is 2.5GB so halved would be 1.25GB - this would not worry me.
However, as you know the verbiage SHOULD say the available bandwidth of the connecting would be halved not the port speed.
I feel "marketing gypped" by Netgear right now: I have had half a day to cool down, in the beginning I was going to return the whole shebang and go out and purchase a couple Cisco devices instead.
Well I am not a an of Cisco and I am a fan of Netgear (my old Pro-Safe JGS616 has served me very well over the years.)
So, that being said I would like to know if I can increase the port power via POE injector or something like it from NetGear that will enable full POE port speed or will that make no difference?
My second option is to return this GS116PP and purchase a GS516UP instead (8x POE+ and 8x POE++ ports).
IF I purchase the GS516UP will the POE++ ports provide enough power that I will get full "port speed" over the POE port on the WAX630E?
Thanks to any and all who reply - your expertise is MUCH appreciated!
Both the WAX630 (nominal 30.1W) and WAX630E (nominal 28E) require a 802.3bt PoE++ power source - in fact more power than what a 802.11af PoE+ port can provide. It's not the port speed, much more the wireless radios are operated on less channels to lower the maximal power consumption.
Keep in mind both WAX630 and WAX630E come with 2.5 GbE MultiGig ports. The wireless radios can easily exceed the bandwidth of a single GbE port - so this does not just the GbE switch, but also likely your Internet router or connections, unless you have a MultiGig capable router in place to deal with the bandwidth between sate-of-the-art wireless client and the local network (LAN).
This is not a Netgear thing - much more, this applies to any similar technology WiFi Access Points and the uplink capacity for modern wireless clients. Welcome to the year 2024!
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Both the WAX630 (nominal 30.1W) and WAX630E (nominal 28E) require a 802.3bt PoE++ power source - in fact more power than what a 802.11af PoE+ port can provide. It's not the port speed, much more the wireless radios are operated on less channels to lower the maximal power consumption.
Keep in mind both WAX630 and WAX630E come with 2.5 GbE MultiGig ports. The wireless radios can easily exceed the bandwidth of a single GbE port - so this does not just the GbE switch, but also likely your Internet router or connections, unless you have a MultiGig capable router in place to deal with the bandwidth between sate-of-the-art wireless client and the local network (LAN).
This is not a Netgear thing - much more, this applies to any similar technology WiFi Access Points and the uplink capacity for modern wireless clients. Welcome to the year 2024!
TYVM for your response.
Much appreciated.
In your expert experience is there some type of POE injector solution I can use that WILL provide the necessary power to both power the device AND keep the speed at or above the 1Gbps mark - or as fast as that the AP can provide-I estimate the top WIFI speed is approx. 600Mbps on full "speed".
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I DO have a multi-GB capable router, it is pfsense, on a PC (CPU and RAM is over powered for 2.5Gbps and might even support 10GBps) it currently only has 1Gbps nics in it. (i7 4790K with 32GB ddr4 @ 2400Mhz - I also have a spare for when this one dies that is a i7 6700K with 64GB ddr 4 @3600Mhz)
The current dual port is a Realtek server nic - I forget the actual bandwidth but my PC is getting near 990Mbps down and easily 49Gbps up)
I have been looking around for 10Gbps dual port nics.
The speed-tests I have done on speedtest.net, dsl reports, fast.com, waveform.com and cloudflare.com all show download speeds of anywhere between 939 and 990Gbps. I guess I cannot expect more than that and some people at work say that's faster than their own Bell FTTH service.
During each of these speed tests CPU usage spike once each test to 20% for most of th test the CPU usage was 0-3%
Hi Again,
I am not sure I understand, however, after a bit more reading, if I grab a poe++ type 4 power injector and plug THAT into the POE++ port on the AP I should then get full power on all the radio's?
Also, after reading the comparison chart between WAX630 and WAX630E I noticed that only the 2.4Ghz radios are halved in performance - does this mean the 5Ghz and 6Ghz radios ARE working at full power?
My wife's PC is WIFI only (for now) and we are getting approx. 310 to 360Mbps on the speed test websites I mention in one of my posts.
IS this the most I can expect from the AP regardless of POE or I just plug it into an electrical socket?
I son also has a WIFI 6 capable router and she gets around the same speed when connected to his router - I had been assuming this is because I was using POE+ and not POE++. My sons router is plugged into the electricity NOT POE of any type.
His ISP provides 300Mbps down and mine provides 1Gb service; I thought THAT was the difference. Is this the wrong way of thinking.
I am old and know nothing about POE period other than the physical connections. I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the new information - 🙂
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