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shiekh
Dec 26, 2016Guide
FVS-318N; FVS-318Gv2 and Arris
User SamirD may have found a correlation in this long saga of the FVS-318N and FVS-318Gv2 not managing a cold boot. It may have something to do with being connected to an Arris modem; one easy 'fix' ...
- Feb 27, 2017
Very interesting that a router in between is getting these units working correctly.
And it's not the cable modem, but the configuration of the head-end equipment by the isp, typically made by Arris.
Does anyone have a Frys nearby? This $20 managed switch might be able to act as the filter and allow the 318G to work normally:
Or order it from newegg:
These managed switches should be able to 'filter' the packets even if they aren't using any other managed switch options. Cheap fix to the problem.
SamirD
Mar 03, 2017Prodigy
Keep in mind that this 'in between device' issue isn't the first time I've seen this issue, nor is it just on a Netgear device. The first time I saw it was on a Cisco rv016. It can happen.
neech
Mar 03, 2017Aspirant
I really think I am going in the direction of getting a security appliance for my firewall. You can get them for (relatively) cheap, then I just need switches on the network to connect devices. I am looking at an open sourced one too, so I am sure any software bugs will get fixed because it is open to the community.
- shiekhMar 03, 2017Guide
Keep us informed, as I have decided to pull the plug and stop investing money and time on the Netgear units. An open sourced unit sounds good.
- neechMar 03, 2017Aspirant
- shiekhMar 03, 2017Guide
Much appreciated
- shiekhMar 04, 2017Guide
At over $300 a pfSense unit is expensive; then again one might argue what use is a $100 firewall that does not work. The ZyXEL VFG6005N firewall cost me $20 new with postage.
Some might say use an old PC, but even with cheap electricity 1W costs about $1 a year for a machine up 24/7, so even an old PC might be expensive to run.
- SamirDMar 04, 2017Prodigy
neech wrote:
I really think I am going in the direction of getting a security appliance for my firewall. You can get them for (relatively) cheap, then I just need switches on the network to connect devices. I am looking at an open sourced one too, so I am sure any software bugs will get fixed because it is open to the community.I wouldn't expect much from this unless you're going the route of a self-rolled pfsense unit or something of that nature. You can get a sopho utm download to run on your own hardware that would work well, but it's got limited support although it is regularly updated because it is the same as the paid version.
You have to remember that a security device (UTM-type product) is in a different class than the simple fvs-series of routers.
- SamirDMar 04, 2017Prodigy
shiekh wrote:At over $300 a pfSense unit is expensive; then again one might argue what use is a $100 firewall that does not work. The ZyXEL VFG6005N firewall cost me $20 new with postage.
Some might say use an old PC, but even with cheap electricity 1W costs about $1 a year for a machine up 24/7, so even an old PC might be expensive to run.
Very good points to consider in any solution. There's always a risk/reward ratio that one has to contend with.
- shiekhMar 04, 2017Guide
Absolutely, and I am one who likes to be occupied by troubles such as this;
but in this case we have done so much work, and now only Netgear can
resolve the issue.
- SamirDMar 04, 2017Prodigy
neech wrote:I am either thinking this unit:
Or one of these:
https://store.netgate.com/SG-2220.aspx
The first one is just a hardware platform so you'll have even more invested before you have a solution, and the second is up there in price for a solution. I think this product in their line would be more apt for a fvs318 replacement:
https://store.netgate.com/SG-1000.aspx
Keep in mind that if you're looking into solutions like this, real enterprise solutions are just a step away in this price range when found discounted:
https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/WATCHGUARD-FIREBOX-T10-W-1Y-LIVESEC/4439090.aspx?pfm=srh
https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/HP-MSR20-20-ROUTER-BSTK/4430523.aspx?pfm=srh#PO
https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/FORTINET-FG-50E-MAX-MGD-UTM-BSTK/4468766.aspx?pfm=srh#PO
- SamirDMar 04, 2017Prodigy
shiekh wrote:Absolutely, and I am one who likes to be occupied by troubles such as this;
but in this case we have done so much work, and now only Netgear can
resolve the issue.
I think you mean to say not be occupied by troubles like this, and I agree with you 100%--we all have other things we need to do or would like to be doing than messing around with routers.
- shiekhMar 04, 2017Guide
Except LiveSecurity Service needs to be paid for annually, so the low purchase price is a bit deceptive.
The SG-1000 looks like fun; what has pfSense gold got that the free version does not?
- SamirDMar 04, 2017Prodigy
shiekh wrote:Except LiveSecurity Service needs to be paid for annually, so the low purchase price is a bit deceptive.
The SG-1000 looks like fun; what has pfSense gold got that the free version does not?
But even without live security, the Watchguard unit will run circles around the fvs318 at that price. We actually replaced our main router years ago with an xtm22w. While it was limited on throughput (could do 45Mbps at best wan to lan), it had up times of over 80 days regularly without a hiccup even when everything else like cable modems did. We recently replaced the xtm22w with an m200 that we got for a steal. I'm tempted to buy that t10 unit just to use at home--they're that stout, and the support is a real person that knows what they're doing. I had to call them on a few issues on our m200 and was able to talk to them 'on the level', not dummied down as in the smb world. It's enterprise gear with enterprise support, and that usually comes at an enterprise price unless you know where the deals are.
- shiekhMar 04, 2017Guide
Maybe I am spoilt, but I expect an uptime way better than just 3 months
- SamirDMar 08, 2017Prodigy
Those are hard shoes to fill in the smb world. I usually have some sort of hiccup on carrier equipment that causes issues with a router and causes the router to need to be rebooted too.
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