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JamesENicholson
Jan 13, 2024Aspirant
Ethernet Backhaul is freezing up
I actually have the exact same problems with my SXR80 and (5) SXS80 satellites. I bought all the satellite to essentially act as remote switches with wifi satellite capability. The wired backhaul has...
CrimpOn
Jan 13, 2024Guru - Experienced User
Agree entirely. Wired backhaul should work.
This package is a bit of a puzzle (first time I have looked at the Product Data sheet)
https://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/SXK80/SXK80_DS.pdf
The router has one 2.5G port which must be used as the WAN connection, plus (4) gigabit ports. Thus, satellites can be connected at a maximum of 1gigabit. (unless gigabit ports 1&2 are aggregated into a suitable switch). Each of the satellites has a 2.5G port plus that weird pair of port 1&2 that can be aggregated and ports 3&4 that are simple gigabit.
The problem description does not mention any switches in the configuration. Is it correct to conclude that the satellites are connected directly to the router? Which ports are being used?
Has the 90 days of 'complimentary support' expired on this purchase? (I would love to hear what Netgear support says about wired backhaul not working.)
JamesENicholson
Jan 13, 2024Aspirant
Cable Modem connected to the 2.5 gbe wan port of the router
Router port #2 at 1 gbe connected to switch with 8x2.5gbe ports and 1x10gbe port
the 5 satellites are connected to the switch via their 2.5gbe ports
I tried link aggregation of the router port #2 and router port #3 using the onboard aggregation in the netgear firmware and connected into the switch, but this caused the entire system to collapse every time i tried to utilize the built in aggregation.
today, one of the satellites had to be disconnected because i could not stream live broadcasts via tivo through it. the satellite and tivo works perfectly when utilizing the wifi backhaul but the tivo mini lost connectivity to the primary tivo every could of minutes.
clearly this satellite had some kind of lag. it worked fine for a week or two then it has this problem.
occasionally other satellite exhibit the same problem and have to be disconnected and resynced to eliminate lag and stutter when trying to stream video through tivo or appletv.
it is crappy to say the least.
i am thinking about selling the router and 5 satellites and upgrading to the 960 series, but the 960 series has 1 fewer rj45 port each which really hurts when you are trying to using port 1 for ethernet backhaul, port 2 for your tv, port 3 for an appletv, port 4 for your tivo mini, and port 5 for gaming system.
the result would be having to buy switches in each room because i run out of hard wired ports.
- CrimpOnJan 13, 2024Guru - Experienced User
Link aggregation requires both ends of the connection to be compatible. It might be worth examining the switch user manual to understand if it is compatible with Link Aggregation.
Aside from "that's a LOT of access points in a 6,000 sq. ft. house", I see no reason why it would not work...and be stable.
Maybe there is something goofy about the 2.5G ports?
- schumakuJan 14, 2024Guru - Experienced User
The Orbi Pro WiFi 6 system are supporting only static LAG - said this, the requirement is a switch with some configuration or management features. Sure, mis- or unconfigured LAG on the switch side can cause operational problems.
Curious what switch (make model, firmware if applicable) is in place connecting the Orbi Pro 2.5GbE ports to form the wired backhaul. Considering there are no known issues for the Orbi Pro WiFi 6 for wired connections difficult to say more...
- plemansJan 14, 2024Guru - Experienced User
I was wondering what switches these are too. I've used wired backhaul with consumer and pro versions of orbi and I haven't had any issues. I do know managed switches can cause issues.
What switches are they?
If they have any "green" features (energy saving), try disabling them.
You might even check on those specific models if they have issues with orbi as sometimes its an easy fix of disabling a sevice/feature on the switches.
Current list of Ethernet switches that work with O... - NETGEAR Communities
- JamesENicholsonJan 14, 2024Aspirant
I know that's a lot of access points, but rather than buying a bunch of switches instead, I just bought "cheap" second hand access points off ebay and planned to use them as switches while beefing up the wifi signal with a satellite in most rooms
- schumakuJan 14, 2024Guru - Experienced User
JamesENicholson wrote:
Cable Modem connected to the 2.5 gbe wan port of the router
Router port #2 at 1 gbe connected to switch with 8x2.5gbe ports and 1x10gbe port
the 5 satellites are connected to the switch via their 2.5gbe ports
JamesENicholson wrote:
The switch is TRENDnet TEG 24-port RJ-45 Gigabit Ethernet GREENnet Switch (TEG-S24Dg)
Difficult to operate network infrastructure with very green switches doing interesting things sometimes.
All I can say at this point is that this switch does not allow a static LAG config, and can't be purpose configured to support a VLAN trunk for serving a backhaul for multiple network and VLANs. One would assume tagged frames will be assed properly, but no security segregation can be done.
JamesENicholson wrote:
There are more satellites than there are ports on the router. I have tried several other switches as well and no better.
Moving target? This is not the same switch you talked of earlier, isn't it?
Sorry CrimpOn in case his is duplicating your views.
- JamesENicholsonJan 15, 2024Aspirant
The same problem exists for both switches whether the 1gbe trendnet or the 2.5gbe sodola; neither are managed switches.
And the problem is that everything will work fine for 2 days or 27 days, but then out of nowhere, one satellite will start to lag resulting in video stutter and/or loss of sound and frame rate on one of the tv's with either the apple tv or tivo. it clearly is an is issue with the satellite.
A disconnect and power cycle results in either everything working again OR crashing the router/satellite system entirely as they all start rebooting and resync'ing.
- FURRYe38Jan 15, 2024Guru - Experienced User
Does the system work if the SXS are wirelessly connected to the SXR?
I'd get into some in brand NETGEAR switches to test. GS105 or 108 series to test to see if problem continues.
Has a factory reset and setup from scratch been performed since last update?
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