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Runaway1954
Nov 03, 2021Tutor
Nighthawk AX 1800 MK63
I want to make my WIFI clients part of the wired network. The wired network is routed through my DSL modem, a total of three machines. My Nighthawk plugs in via ethernet to that same modem, filling all four ethernet ports.
Modem assigns itself the IP address of 192.168.0.1 - and I cannot change it. Every attempt to do so causes the modem to reboot itself, and reset back to 192.168.01, which is probably irrelevant to my question.
I want my mesh WIFI network to become part of that wired network, sharing 192.168.0.x addresses. The goal here, is to simplify file sharing and transfers, as well as remote desktop connections.
When I set up the mesh router and satellites, then "just worked", that is, it assigned itself an address of 10.0.0.1, and gave wireless devices corresponding addresses. I have made no changes to the Nighthawk configurations yet.
What changes, specifically, do I need to make, for my Nighthawk router to take an address from the modem, such as 192.168.0.5, then assign corresponding addresses to it's clients?
Problem is, you're in a double nat.
A double nat happens when you cascade more than 1 router.
https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
Fixes? There’s 3 options but only use 1.
1. Put the modem/gateway in modem only/pass through mode. This disables its routing functions. In this mode, you'd need to go modem/gateway----->MR60---->switches/wired devices.
2. Leave the modem/gateway in router mode but put the Netgears IP address into its DMZ. This forwards the data to the netgear. You can either leave the modem/gateway’s wireless enabled or disabled. Just make sure its using a different wifi channel to prevent interference. Problem with this is it won't have everything on the same network. I wouldn't use this option.
3. Put the Netgear into access point mode. This disables its routing functions and leaves the gateway managing them. Wifi/ethernet still works but it does disable some features.
https://kb.netgear.com/26765/Which-features-are-disabled-on-my-NETGEAR-router-when-it-is-set-to-AP-ModeThis would have everything on the same subnet as your modem/gateway.
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Forgot to mention that during setup of the Nighthawk mesh, I allowed the prompt that wanted to download new firmware. All three units are running the latest firmware, v1.0.6.116.
- plemansGuru - Experienced User
Problem is, you're in a double nat.
A double nat happens when you cascade more than 1 router.
https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
Fixes? There’s 3 options but only use 1.
1. Put the modem/gateway in modem only/pass through mode. This disables its routing functions. In this mode, you'd need to go modem/gateway----->MR60---->switches/wired devices.
2. Leave the modem/gateway in router mode but put the Netgears IP address into its DMZ. This forwards the data to the netgear. You can either leave the modem/gateway’s wireless enabled or disabled. Just make sure its using a different wifi channel to prevent interference. Problem with this is it won't have everything on the same network. I wouldn't use this option.
3. Put the Netgear into access point mode. This disables its routing functions and leaves the gateway managing them. Wifi/ethernet still works but it does disable some features.
https://kb.netgear.com/26765/Which-features-are-disabled-on-my-NETGEAR-router-when-it-is-set-to-AP-ModeThis would have everything on the same subnet as your modem/gateway.
Thanks for the quick response, plemans.
Option 3 looks acceptable, however, past experience with entirely different equipment raises a question. When I put the Nighthawk into AP mode, some options will be grayed out. But, I will be able, if I desire, to switch the Nighthawk out of AP made?
To make sense of that question, I should explain that some ISP issued modem offered a bridging mode years ago. Once switched into bridging mode, I was never able to log back into that modem, and when I asked Tech Support, they just brought a new modem to the house.
Second question, after making the switch, I presume logging into the Nighhawk will be as simple as finding it's IP address on the modem, then logging into for example 192.168.0.2.
I've checked that list of grayed out options three times now, and don't anticipate that any of those will be a problem.
- plemansGuru - Experienced User
Yes. If the current modem is running in router mode, it'll assign and IP address to the MR system.You'll be able to use that address to log into it and take it out of AP mode.
I'd just make a backup of your current configuration before doing so.
That way if there is an issue, you can simply factory reset the MR system and it'll be back in router mode with default settings.