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Dsteve's avatar
Dsteve
Tutor
Feb 22, 2021

Orbi Ethernet Backhaul Setup

Trying to set up my Orbi RBK853 for enthernet backhaul.

No issues with the satellites.

Question regarding the connections for the router with ethernet backhaul.

 

Is it a single ethernet cable from my switch to the WAN yellow port on the router?

Or

Is it a single ethernet cable from my switch to the LAN port on the router?

Or

Is it two ethernet cables, one from the switch to the router WAN yellow port for internet traffic and the second ethernet cable going from a router LAN port back to the switch for the backhaul?

 

Thanks

22 Replies

  • Retired_Member's avatar
    Retired_Member

    For ethernet backhaul, it's the following:

    1. Modem plugged directly into the WAN (yellow) port of your router
    2. 1 LAN port from the router to the switch
    3. For each satellite, 1 LAN port from the satellite to the switch

    You can see a visual to this in the 3rd image from the article below.

    https://kb.netgear.com/000051205/What-is-Ethernet-backhaul-and-how-do-I-set-it-up-on-my-Orbi-WiFi-System

    The diagram is missing the #1 link above showing the modem connected to the WAN.

     

    I hope this helps!

    • hajman69's avatar
      hajman69
      Aspirant

      This solution works. I had endless issues setting up backhall, I spent £20 on a netgear unmanaged gigabit 8port switch and set up as follows: 

       

      1. ISP provided Router (ASUS) connected to modem via internet port. 

      2. Orbi set to AP mode and an ethernet cable from internet port of Orbi Router to LAN port on ISP router. 

      3. Cable from Orbi router LAN port to LAN port on 8port switch 

      (This would not be needed if i could plug the satellites into the orbi router LAN ports directly but my router is set up separately from the ISP router in a corridor and hard cabled in such as way this was not possibele)

      4. ethernet connected satellites plugged into the switch. 

       

      Sounds like this aprpoach should not be needed but anything else just resulted in me pulling my hair out. This solution is stable and fast and allows me to deliver high speed wirless to two parts of the house separated by 10ft thick stone walls and an outdoor office. 

       

      Now it is working properly the orbi solution is brilliant, 

       

      I hope this helps. 

    • Dsteve's avatar
      Dsteve
      Tutor

      For the WAN connection, does it have to be directly to the modem or can be connected via a switch or switches?

       

      My home setup has mutliple unmanaged/managed switches and VLAN's to control access.

       

      Modem>>>D-Link DSR250>>>>netgear GS116 which everything in the house.

       

      For the Orbi router connection i am going:

       

      D-LInk DSR250>>>>Netgear GS308e>>>>Orbi Router

       

      Basically can i connect both connects from the ORbi router WAN & LAN to the same switch?

       

      Note, right now i have the Orbi router just connected to the LAN, everything seems to work great, but when i login to router via browser i seem to have an issue with firmware update, says theres not internet connection.

       

      Thanks

       

       

       

      • FURRYe38's avatar
        FURRYe38
        Guru

        This will work:

        D-LInk DSR250>>>>>2 WAN port on Orbi Router>>>>LAN port from Orbi Router>>>>>2 Netgear GS308e switch


  • Dsteve wrote:

    Trying to set up my Orbi RBK853 for enthernet backhaul.

    No issues with the satellites.

    Question regarding the connections for the router with ethernet backhaul.

     

    Is it a single ethernet cable from my switch to the WAN yellow port on the router? No

    Or

    Is it a single ethernet cable from my switch to the LAN port on the router? Yes

    Or

    Is it two ethernet cables, one from the switch to the router WAN yellow port for internet traffic and the second ethernet cable going from a router LAN port back to the switch for the backhaul? No

     

    Thanks


     

    • hajman69's avatar
      hajman69
      Aspirant

      FURRYe38  You seem to be suggesting that the extra cable is not required. If you are connecting the satellites to the Orbi router they are not. If, however you are not able to connect the satellites to the Orbi router, then you cannot just plug them into the ISP provided router.  Disclaimer - I am not a networking engineer but my experiences support this. 

       

      If you cannot plug the satellites into your Orbi router because of location, you will need to have a switch connected to one of the Orbi routers LAN ports and the Orbi router connected to the ISP supplied router. If of course your Orbi is your router as opposed to AP the setup may be different. 

       

      Long and short, in my experience, you cannot set up backhaul by ethernet with a single cable plugged into your Orbi router in either WAN or LAN ports, regardless of the pictures on Netgear website. Another disclaimer, i never tried am ethernet backhaul between two satellites. with wirteless to the router.  Has anyone tried this? 

      • FURRYe38's avatar
        FURRYe38
        Guru

        Single cable is all that is required for wired back haul in any configuration, router or AP mode. This is not a suggestion.

        If by location you can not have a direct connection to the back of the RBR, then yes, the use of a LAN switch in between the RBR and RBS is supported. I have 3 switches in daisy chain between my RBR and 1 of my RBS in the basement and 2 that connects my other RBS in the dining room. Been working like this for years i've been using Orbi systems.

         

        If your having problems using the single cable to connect your RBS to the RBR, then there is a problem that has to be investigated. 


        hajman69 wrote:

         You seem to be suggesting that the extra cable is not required. If you are connecting the satellites to the Orbi router they are not. If, however you are not able to connect the satellites to the Orbi router, then you cannot just plug them into the ISP provided router.  Disclaimer - I am not a networking engineer but my experiences support this. 

         

        If you cannot plug the satellites into your Orbi router because of location, you will need to have a switch connected to one of the Orbi routers LAN ports and the Orbi router connected to the ISP supplied router. If of course your Orbi is your router as opposed to AP the setup may be different. 

         

        Long and short, in my experience, you cannot set up backhaul by ethernet with a single cable plugged into your Orbi router in either WAN or LAN ports, regardless of the pictures on Netgear website. Another disclaimer, i never tried am ethernet backhaul between two satellites. with wirteless to the router.  Has anyone tried this?