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Trx1975
Nov 17, 2024Aspirant
Orbi often magenta
Hi, not happy with my rbr760 and 2 sattelites.
I have no method to link them to eachother. So current setop is modem - > switch - > wired rbr and 2x sattelites in 3 different rooms.
The sattelites often go magenta and have to restart to have WiFi again.
All in AP/Bridge mode. And next to them being linker to the main switch, their second ports are linker to other switches for cable in the rooms. All switches are netgear 105.
I also tried all three conneced directly to the modem, same result
Why does this not work?
I have no method to link them to eachother. So current setop is modem - > switch - > wired rbr and 2x sattelites in 3 different rooms.
The sattelites often go magenta and have to restart to have WiFi again.
All in AP/Bridge mode. And next to them being linker to the main switch, their second ports are linker to other switches for cable in the rooms. All switches are netgear 105.
I also tried all three conneced directly to the modem, same result
Why does this not work?
Trx1975 wrote:
yes, that would be the best, but my modem and orbis are in different locations. So no Orbi near the modem/Switch A
This is a common situation which can be solved in three ways:
- Relocate the Orbi units so that the router is adjacent to the ISP modem. Perhaps relocating the two satellites will result in reasonable coverage. This will allow the Orbi router WAN port to connect to the modem and the two satellites to connect to router LAN ports (perhaps through the switch).
- Run a second Ethernet cable from the modem/switch location to the Orbi location.
Connect the Orbi WAN port to the modem with one cable (bypassing the switch).
Connect an Orbi LAN port to Switch A using the other cable.
Switch A is not connected to the ISP modem. - Place managed switches at the Orbi location and the modem location (two switches). This will allow the single Ethernet cable to function as a VLAN "trunk" and carry both the traffic between modem and Orbi WAN port and the traffic between the Satellites and Orbi LAN port over a single cable. For example, the Netgear GS105E now sells on Amazon for $40. Paying $80 for two switches might be significantly less costly than installing another cable.
- At the router location, connect the existing Ethernet cable between modem location and Orbi router location to Port 1 and define Port 1 as a VLAN trunk.
- Connect the Orbi router WAN port to Port 2 on the managed switch and define this Port as VLAN 1
- Connect an Orbi LAN port to Port 3 on the managed switch and define this as VLAN 2
- At the modem location, connect the existing Ethernet able to Port 1 and define Port 1 as a VLAN trunk.
- Connect the modem to Port 2 on the switch and define Port 1 as VLAN 1
- Connect Satellite 1 to port 3 of the managed switch and define it as VLAN 2
- Connect Satellite 2 to port 4 of the managed switch and define it as VLAN 2
A longer description of this process can be found here: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7to2s3f4rxkfqjnccvk8c/VLAN-Solution.pdf?rlkey=ywv6oxinpgpx6pqjb7ao45zd8&dl=0
9 Replies
- CrimpOnGuru - Experienced User
Please describe the connections in more detail. Which specific ports on the router and satellites are connected to what.
The Orbi AX series is programmed internally to expect that (no matter what 'mode' the system is operating in):
- The "internet" will be found connected to the router WAN port, not one of the LAN ports.
- If satellites are 'wired' to the router, they will appear to be connected to the router LAN ports, not to the WAN port.
There have been numerous posts on the forum this year from users who have connected both their router and satellites to a switch and find that the system does not operate correctly. This is often because the physical layout of internal wiring makes it inconvenient to connect satellites to the router LAN ports.
The traditional (and expected) method of connecting a customer WiFi router to the ISP device is for the router WAN port to be connected directly to the ISP device and everything else in the house connected to the LAN side of the customer router.
- Trx1975Aspirant
Thank you for the quick respons. My appologies for the late reply
Fiber -> Modem WAN port
Modem LAN Port 1 -> Netgear Switch A port 1
Modem LAN Port 2-4 -> other devices
Netgear Switch A port 2 -> Orbi Router yellow port, labelled "Internet". 2 ports labeled "Ethernet" connected to PC's.
Netgear Switch A port 3 -> Orbi Sat 1. Sat has 2 ports, unlabled, all white. Connected to the right port. Other port to PC
Netgear Switch A port 4 -> Orbi Sat 2. Sat has 2 ports, unlabled, all white. Connected to the right port. Other port to Netgear Switch B, with multiple devices
Netgear Switch A port 5-8 -> other devices
Also tried
Fiber -> Modem WAN port
Modem LAN Port 1 -> Orbi Router yellow port
Modem LAN Port 2 -> Orbi Sat 1
Modem LAN Port 3 -> Orbi Sat 2
Modem LAN Port 4 => Netgear Switch A
Same result.
Next to the sattelites going Magenta, the PC's connected to the Orbi router often experiece a short drop in internet and Wifi from the router.
- CrimpOnGuru - Experienced User
Either of these two configurations create a network where the Orbi satellites are not connected through the Orbi router LAN ports. A configuration that should work properly is:
ISP modem/router LAN port 1 to Orbi router WAN port.
Orbi LAN port 1 to Netgear switch A port 1
Netgear switch A port 2 to satellite 1
Netgear switch A port 3 to satellite 2
other ports to other devices