I have an RBR750 set up in AP modeI also have an RBS750 Both are running V4.6.14.3Both units are connected to a switch via their LAN ports (I am not using the RBR as a router) Both units are reachable, and both are providing wifi access succesfully to various devices. However, the RBR750 shows "0 satellites connected" and likewise the RBS750 shows that it has no connection to the router From what I had read, I though these two units should be able to see each other using a wired backhaul...?

What is the Mfr and model# of the host router the NG router is connected too? How is the RBR connected to the host router? WAN port? Whats the brand and model# of the LAN switch being used? What CAT# LAN cable is being used? CAT6 is recommended. Try the RBS directly connected to the back of the RBR with out the switch?

What is the Mfr and model# of the host router the NG router is connected too?RBR750Firmware Version V4.6.14.3_2.3.12GUI Language Version V3.0.1.54_2.1.30.3 How is the RBR connected to the host router? WAN port? RBR is connected to the main gigE switch using a cat6 cable RBR is set up in AP mode The internet router is also connected to this switch The WAN port on the RBR is not used Whats the brand and model# of the LAN switch being used? It's an unmanaged 8 port gigE switch from TPLink - TL-SG108SHow do the devices discover each other? What CAT# LAN cable is being used? CAT6 is recommended.CAT6 Try the RBS directly connected to the back of the RBR with out the switch?Unfortunately that would be a problem with the available cabling. I might be able to work something out temporarily though. However, at that point they would be so close that I presumably wouldn't know if the backhaul was wired or wireless...? Both devices are visible on the network - and both are providing wifi access to devices - but if they are not seeing each other, that presumably means both are acting as standalone access points....which may or may not have any real-world effect in terms of device handover etc...?

dbrb2 wrote: What is the Mfr and model# of the host router the NG router is connected too? RBR750Firmware Version V4.6.14.3_2.3.12GUI Language Version V3.0.1.54_2.1.30.3 What is the other routers brand name and model# that the RBR750 is connected too? How is the RBR connected to the host router? WAN port? RBR is connected to the main gigE switch using a cat6 cable RBR is set up in AP mode The internet router is also connected to this switch The WAN port on the RBR is not used <The WAN port on the RBR while in AP mode HAS to be used for proper operation of the RBR AND RBS. Whats the brand and model# of the LAN switch being used? It's an unmanaged 8 port gigE switch from TPLink - TL-SG108S How do the devices discover each other? What CAT# LAN cable is being used? CAT6 is recommended. CAT6 Try the RBS directly connected to the back of the RBR with out the switch? Unfortunately that would be a problem with the available cabling. I might be able to work something out temporarily though. However, at that point they would be so close that I presumably wouldn't know if the backhaul was wired or wireless...? Something to try as a quick test to see if the RBS sync over ethernet to the back of the RBR and they show properly when ethernet connected on the RBRs web page. Wired status should appear for each RBS after they successfully sync over ethernet. Both devices are visible on the network - and both are providing wifi access to devices - but if they are not seeing each other, that presumably means both are acting as standalone access points....which may or may not have any real-world effect in terms of device handover etc...?

Ah sorry I made a mistake: I am (and have always) been using the RBR WAN port in AP mode. In AP mode then, the WAN port does not merely become another LAN port? I have connected the RBS to one of the RBR LAN ports, and the RBR now shows "12 sat connected, connection type wired" Likewise, the App shows the RBS connected The RBS web interface itself seems a little confused, showing the router greyed out - but maybe that is because it has no graphic for a wired connection... The fact this works might suggest that to use the wireless backhaul you have to use the RBR LAN ports - but to operate in AP mode you have to use the WAN port....so the RBR would need two cables run to it...? If so, I might go back to the old setup 🙂 Thanks!

Would it be correct to conclude that physical wiring layout is responsible for the way devices are connected? i.e. two devices are located at a central wiring hub: Internet Service Provider (ISP) router, and 8-port gigabit switch The Orbi router, Orbi satellite, and perhaps other user devices are located in different locations using Ethernet cables which connect to that wiring hub. There is only a single Ethernet cable from the hub to the location of the Orbi router. Locating the Orbi router at the hub is undesirable for one reason or another. The traditional method of using the Orbi in Access Point (AP) mode would be: ISP Router -> Orbi Router WAN (in AP mode) -> LAN port to gigabit switch Everything else connected to the gigabit switch.

RBR750 and RBS750 not seeing each other with wired backhaul

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FURRYe38
Guru
Apr 02, 2023
What is the Mfr and model# of the host router the NG router is connected too?

How is the RBR connected to the host router? WAN port?

Whats the brand and model# of the LAN switch being used?

What CAT# LAN cable is being used? CAT6 is recommended.

Try the RBS directly connected to the back of the RBR with out the switch?
- dbrb2
  Apprentice
  Apr 02, 2023
  What is the Mfr and model# of the host router the NG router is connected too?
  RBR750
  Firmware Version V4.6.14.3_2.3.12
  GUI Language Version V3.0.1.54_2.1.30.3
  
  How is the RBR connected to the host router? WAN port?
  RBR is connected to the main gigE switch using a cat6 cable
  RBR is set up in AP mode
  The internet router is also connected to this switch
  The WAN port on the RBR is not used
  
  Whats the brand and model# of the LAN switch being used?
  It's an unmanaged 8 port gigE switch from TPLink - TL-SG108S
  How do the devices discover each other?
  
  What CAT# LAN cable is being used? CAT6 is recommended.
  CAT6
  
  Try the RBS directly connected to the back of the RBR with out the switch?
  Unfortunately that would be a problem with the available cabling. I might be able to work something out temporarily though. However, at that point they would be so close that I presumably wouldn't know if the backhaul was wired or wireless...?
  
  Both devices are visible on the network - and both are providing wifi access to devices - but if they are not seeing each other, that presumably means both are acting as standalone access points....which may or may not have any real-world effect in terms of device handover etc...?
  - FURRYe38
    Guru
    Apr 02, 2023
    dbrb2 wrote:
    
    What is the Mfr and model# of the host router the NG router is connected too?
    
    RBR750
    Firmware Version V4.6.14.3_2.3.12
    GUI Language Version V3.0.1.54_2.1.30.3
    
    What is the other routers brand name and model# that the RBR750 is connected too?
    
    How is the RBR connected to the host router? WAN port?
    
    RBR is connected to the main gigE switch using a cat6 cable
    
    RBR is set up in AP mode
    
    The internet router is also connected to this switch
    
    The WAN port on the RBR is not used <The WAN port on the RBR while in AP mode HAS to be used for proper operation of the RBR AND RBS.
    
    Whats the brand and model# of the LAN switch being used?
    
    It's an unmanaged 8 port gigE switch from TPLink - TL-SG108S
    
    How do the devices discover each other?
    
    What CAT# LAN cable is being used? CAT6 is recommended.
    
    CAT6
    
    Try the RBS directly connected to the back of the RBR with out the switch?
    
    Unfortunately that would be a problem with the available cabling. I might be able to work something out temporarily though. However, at that point they would be so close that I presumably wouldn't know if the backhaul was wired or wireless...?
    
    Something to try as a quick test to see if the RBS sync over ethernet to the back of the RBR and they show properly when ethernet connected on the RBRs web page. Wired status should appear for each RBS after they successfully sync over ethernet.
    
    Both devices are visible on the network - and both are providing wifi access to devices - but if they are not seeing each other, that presumably means both are acting as standalone access points....which may or may not have any real-world effect in terms of device handover etc...?

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RBR750 and RBS750 not seeing each other with wired backhaul